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> This is first of all so condescending It's not condescending. Many people have spent years neglecting their home life and personal life in favor of work lif

> This is first of all so condescending It's not condescending. Many people have spent years neglecting their home life and personal life in favor of work life. People have been actively encouraged by employers to do this. But at the end of the day for some people pandemic was a blessing and others it was a curse and for most this distinction rests on how much energy people spend prior to the pandemic maintaining their non-office life. Office life will never return to the way it was pre-pandemic. Absolutely for some people this situation sucks, but it isn't going to resolve itself. I've seen countless people in HN comments like this effectively waiting for things to go back to the way there were: they won't. Things will change, and they will improve but if you're waiting for a return to feel good again, you will never feel good again. If you want to stop feeling bad, you need to actively start figuring out new possible ways to feel better. Working on building relationships with friends, neighbors, members of your local community is a good place to start.

ghaff 5y ago
>Office life will never return to the way it was pre-pandemic. I think this is absolutely right. It will vary by company of course. But more people will be fully remote and, based on a bunch of different studies I've seen, in-office will probably be 3 days a week or so for most people. Now I would expect co-located teams to coordinate some but I doubt that the 9-5 everyone in the office world will be the norm at most companies for the foreseeable future.
nickff 5y ago
I understand that you're trying to show the parent commenter a different perspective, but telling somebody that a comment is not condescending is unconvincing, especially when the statement is followed by an exposition of your world view. Empathy is the opposite of condescension; if you want to show someone that you're on their level, and genuinely want to convince them, you should try to state their premise in your own words, and then show the advantages of your outlook.
- time_to_smile 5y ago
  The irony here being that this is comment is itself a perfect example of condescension.
  - nickff 5y ago
    Could you please explain what makes my comment above read that way? It was not my intent to be condescending.
cbdumas 5y ago
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, what you wrote to me here is absolutely dripping with condescension. Maybe we just don't agree on what that word means? In my view, writing the following to a stranger whose life you know nothing about could be a passable definition of "condescension": > If you want to stop feeling bad, you need to actively start figuring out new possible ways to feel better. Working on building relationships with friends, neighbors, members of your local community is a good place to start.

ghaff 5y ago

>Office life will never return to the way it was pre-pandemic. I think this is absolutely right. It will vary by company of course. But more people will be fully remote and, based on a bunch of different studies I've seen, in-office will probably be 3 days a week or so for most people. Now I would expect co-located teams to coordinate some but I doubt that the 9-5 everyone in the office world will be the norm at most companies for the foreseeable future.

nickff 5y ago

I understand that you're trying to show the parent commenter a different perspective, but telling somebody that a comment is not condescending is unconvincing, especially when the statement is followed by an exposition of your world view. Empathy is the opposite of condescension; if you want to show someone that you're on their level, and genuinely want to convince them, you should try to state their premise in your own words, and then show the advantages of your outlook.

time_to_smile 5y ago
The irony here being that this is comment is itself a perfect example of condescension.
- nickff 5y ago
  Could you please explain what makes my comment above read that way? It was not my intent to be condescending.

cbdumas 5y ago

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, what you wrote to me here is absolutely dripping with condescension. Maybe we just don't agree on what that word means? In my view, writing the following to a stranger whose life you know nothing about could be a passable definition of "condescension": > If you want to stop feeling bad, you need to actively start figuring out new possible ways to feel better. Working on building relationships with friends, neighbors, members of your local community is a good place to start.