7 ms·

Dead journalists can't close them down, but the US government can.

hellbannedguy 5y ago
We should have cut down our tax payer aid we give Israel if they (NSA) don't inform our FBI/CIA of every aspect of their business in excruciating detail. Hell--we should have cut of Israel's charity years ago. I'm beginning to wonder if we should have buddied up with Palestine.
MomoXenosaga 5y ago
I don't think the US really cares all that much if Saudi Arabia cracks down on dissidents. It's only bad if Russia or China does it.
Eelongate 5y ago
I think that remains to be seen.
- frupert52 5y ago
  Only if you can find their remains
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > that remains to be seen Oh man, for purely comical purposes I would love to see NSO actually believe that.
  - Eelongate 5y ago
    In principle, America could drop Hellfire R9X sword missiles through the cars of every NSO employee. In practice, would American politicians have the nerve to go to war with NSO, when NSO probably infected all their phones years ago? How much dirt do they have on American politicians?
    - rapind 5y ago
      Really, all you need is a subtle suggestion to the Israeli government that the hundred billions or so dollars they receive from the US every year might be impacted by continued NSO bad publicity.
      - gdrift 5y ago
        > hundred billions or so dollars ... every year More like ~$4B (out of a total foreign aid of ~$50B annually). https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the...
      - poisonarena 5y ago
        that number is way off, and the money they "receive", is specifically for use with US defence contracts and deals.. Its like Disneyland giving you Disneydollars.. You can only spend them at Disneyland.. It is a way for the US military-industrial complex to stay afloat.. And it is a drop in the bucket for Israeli Defence spending, and would make little difference if they took it out.
        FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
        In fairness, the net result of this exchange is still something like, "Disneyland gives you a free hamburger." And by hamburger I mean "tank" or something. Well that, and the hamburger vendor buys a big house in the DC metro area. And everybody else's ticket prices go up a little. But still, draw a control volume, and it's just hamburgers flowing out.
        tibyat 5y ago
        It somehow keeps the US military industrial complex afloat while being a drop in the bucket for Israel?? You may be biased. Threat of removing 20% of Israeli defense budget [1] would hypothetically be plenty enough to apply serious political pressure, and thats just the money, forgetting the political support and the deterrent US support provides them. [1] https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the...

We should have cut down our tax payer aid we give Israel if they (NSA) don't inform our FBI/CIA of every aspect of their business in excruciating detail. Hell--we should have cut of Israel's charity years ago. I'm beginning to wonder if we should have buddied up with Palestine.

MomoXenosaga 5y ago

I don't think the US really cares all that much if Saudi Arabia cracks down on dissidents. It's only bad if Russia or China does it.

Eelongate 5y ago

I think that remains to be seen.

frupert52 5y ago
Only if you can find their remains
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> that remains to be seen Oh man, for purely comical purposes I would love to see NSO actually believe that.
- Eelongate 5y ago
  In principle, America could drop Hellfire R9X sword missiles through the cars of every NSO employee. In practice, would American politicians have the nerve to go to war with NSO, when NSO probably infected all their phones years ago? How much dirt do they have on American politicians?
  - rapind 5y ago
    Really, all you need is a subtle suggestion to the Israeli government that the hundred billions or so dollars they receive from the US every year might be impacted by continued NSO bad publicity.
    - gdrift 5y ago
      > hundred billions or so dollars ... every year More like ~$4B (out of a total foreign aid of ~$50B annually). https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the...
    - poisonarena 5y ago
      that number is way off, and the money they "receive", is specifically for use with US defence contracts and deals.. Its like Disneyland giving you Disneydollars.. You can only spend them at Disneyland.. It is a way for the US military-industrial complex to stay afloat.. And it is a drop in the bucket for Israeli Defence spending, and would make little difference if they took it out.
      - FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
        In fairness, the net result of this exchange is still something like, "Disneyland gives you a free hamburger." And by hamburger I mean "tank" or something. Well that, and the hamburger vendor buys a big house in the DC metro area. And everybody else's ticket prices go up a little. But still, draw a control volume, and it's just hamburgers flowing out.
      - tibyat 5y ago
        It somehow keeps the US military industrial complex afloat while being a drop in the bucket for Israel?? You may be biased. Threat of removing 20% of Israeli defense budget [1] would hypothetically be plenty enough to apply serious political pressure, and thats just the money, forgetting the political support and the deterrent US support provides them. [1] https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the...