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I know the history very well, but the law telling me what's true and what not, that rubs me the wrong way.
by rightiousrob 5y ago
I know the history very well, but the law telling me what's true and what not, that rubs me the wrong way.
- formerly_proven 5y agoMaybe go read the law then.
- rightiousrob 5y agoWhich basically says that openly challenging: - the exact number of 6M victims. - the singularity of this event. - that this event is incomparable to any other historical event Is a crime. Given that the number of victims is an estimate and might even be higher and also there were events in history like china's cultural revolution, Stalin's great cleansing and the killing fields in Cambodia (to name a few) that law does not sound to be that reasonable as it might sound initially
- _jal 5y ago> Given that the number of victims is an estimate I'm very used to engineers' quibbles, very focused views ending up being very narrow views, clever/stupid explanations of why various laws can't be enforced, and so on. But this has the be the biggest instance of missing the point, intentionally or not, I've seen in quite some time.
- tpush 5y ago> [...] and also there were events in history like china's cultural revolution, Stalin's great cleansing and the killing fields in Cambodia (to name a few) [...] Under the assumption that is meant to be a sincere argument: The difference between the holocaust and those crimes is that Germany's the country primarily responsible for the former, giving special meaning to the denial of that crime and the law banning its denial.
- formerly_proven 5y agoNone of these things are in the law, so gg to you for lying on the internet while trying to defend lying about the holocaust. Well played.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoI don't think this person is lying. I think they genuinely believe they know what they're talking about. (Which is almost worse.)
- okl 5y agoThat's not what the law says. Btw, not only in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial
- hobofan 5y agoYou do realize that the law at its core is a collection of assertions (= truths) that a society lives by?
- flippantdev 5y agoThat's not even remotely true. Laws are not truths, they're a collection of arbitrary rules. Socrates discussed this like 2000 years ago...