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One thing I, personally, find very interesting is that a lot of wording from the coalition contract on this and related matters is apparently taken from or at l

One thing I, personally, find very interesting is that a lot of wording from the coalition contract on this and related matters is apparently taken from or at least based on [0] a document [1] released by the CCC for that very purpose. I haven't personally carefully verified this to be true, but I have no reason to distrust the linked report. [0] https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=9f60b12e https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=9f60b12e [1] https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2021/ccc-formulierungshilfe-regierungsprogramm https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2021/ccc-formulierungshilfe-re... (both in German)

majewsky 5y ago
Well yeah, after years of seeing lobbyists slipping their suggested phrasing into bills, it was about time we took a page from their playbook. :) (Disclosure: I volunteer in a local CCC chapter, mostly in public relations.)
- _the_inflator 5y ago
  The last sentences already address this: "Ich sollte an der Stelle vielleicht auch klar ansagen: Die Politiker, die anderer Lobbyisten vorformulierte Entwürfe übernehmen, sind faule Schufte. Die, die unsere vorformulierten Entwürfe durchwinken, sind wohlinformierte und hochintelligente Ehrenleute!1!!" ;)
  - tempestn 5y ago
    Google translate for others curious: "At this point I should perhaps also state clearly: The politicians who adopt other lobbyists' pre-formulated drafts are lazy villains. Those who wave through our pre-formulated drafts are well-informed and highly intelligent people of honor!1!!" Nice.
    - Garlef 5y ago
      I think "scoundrel" is a better translation of "schuft" in this context (over "villain").
  - selimthegrim 5y ago
    TIL winken takes the dative.
    - Tainnor 5y ago
      1) The verb is durchwinken, not winken. Winken doesn't take any arguments except the subject. 2) "Durchwinken" takes an accusative object as in this example.
      - iforgotpassword 5y ago
        1) Jdm. Winken. "Ich winke dir" is valid without "zu", but depending on where you live, unusual. "Ich habe dir gewunken" sounds less strange already.
        selimthegrim 5y ago
        Thanks for the clarity!
        pvitz 5y ago
        Nevertheless, "gewunken" is wrong. The correct conjugation is "gewinkt".
        MrYellowP 5y ago
        As an Austrian, I've never heard anyone use "gewinkt" in a serious manner.
        account42 5y ago
        It is not wrong as it is the more commonly used form.
    - eska 5y ago
      It doesn’t. The verb is “jemanden oder etwas durchwinken” (let someone or something pass through). Akkusativ is jemanden oder etwas. Dativ is jemandem oder etwas.

majewsky 5y ago

Well yeah, after years of seeing lobbyists slipping their suggested phrasing into bills, it was about time we took a page from their playbook. :) (Disclosure: I volunteer in a local CCC chapter, mostly in public relations.)

_the_inflator 5y ago
The last sentences already address this: "Ich sollte an der Stelle vielleicht auch klar ansagen: Die Politiker, die anderer Lobbyisten vorformulierte Entwürfe übernehmen, sind faule Schufte. Die, die unsere vorformulierten Entwürfe durchwinken, sind wohlinformierte und hochintelligente Ehrenleute!1!!" ;)
- tempestn 5y ago
  Google translate for others curious: "At this point I should perhaps also state clearly: The politicians who adopt other lobbyists' pre-formulated drafts are lazy villains. Those who wave through our pre-formulated drafts are well-informed and highly intelligent people of honor!1!!" Nice.
  - Garlef 5y ago
    I think "scoundrel" is a better translation of "schuft" in this context (over "villain").
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  TIL winken takes the dative.
  - Tainnor 5y ago
    1) The verb is durchwinken, not winken. Winken doesn't take any arguments except the subject. 2) "Durchwinken" takes an accusative object as in this example.
    - iforgotpassword 5y ago
      1) Jdm. Winken. "Ich winke dir" is valid without "zu", but depending on where you live, unusual. "Ich habe dir gewunken" sounds less strange already.
      - selimthegrim 5y ago
        Thanks for the clarity!
      - pvitz 5y ago
        Nevertheless, "gewunken" is wrong. The correct conjugation is "gewinkt".
        MrYellowP 5y ago
        As an Austrian, I've never heard anyone use "gewinkt" in a serious manner.
        account42 5y ago
        It is not wrong as it is the more commonly used form.
  - eska 5y ago
    It doesn’t. The verb is “jemanden oder etwas durchwinken” (let someone or something pass through). Akkusativ is jemanden oder etwas. Dativ is jemandem oder etwas.