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Game “While true: learn()” for free in Epic Store
- cwkoss 5y agoIs this game good? I've resisted installing Epic Store so far, but this looks pretty neat. Does it feel Zachtronics-y? If so, I'll probably pull the trigger.
- artogahr 5y agoIf you're going to go this route, just pirate it. The game is good, definitely deserves the price.
- gameswithgo 5y agoWhy are you resisting installing steams first real competition which gives devs a bigger cut and regularly throws free games at you?
- roblabla 5y agoBecause competing with steam through exclusive deals and free games is not competing, it's racing to the bottom. I don't see any actual improvements or innovations in the Epic Games Store, it looks like a pure money grab.
- naikrovek 5y agosure, paying for games that you get to keep is a money grab... someone wanna explain this logic to me?
- reificator 5y agoDo you want to explain where "paying for games that you get to keep" entered this conversation? The logic the GP was using was that exclusivity deals and "the first hit is free" tactics are not ultimately in the customer's interest.
- naikrovek 5y agothat's arguable, but those tactics are good for getting people to use your store. this is what ALL coupons and advertising is actually manipulating you to do, and EGS isn't doing anything different, there. the thing EGS IS doing differently, however, is being much more fair to creators of these games, and basing their fees on the actual costs they must incur, instead of just taking as much as they can, which is very much in the consumer's best interest. it's in everyone's best interest, because more profit for most game devs means more games from those devs, and more games are what consumers want.
- dkjaudyeqooe 5y agoSteam has a massive head start and Epic has huge barriers to entry. You can make a super nice launcher and it's not going make many inroads among those who already have all their games and friends on Steam. Epic is throwing money at the problem, but they have few other real options. Where is the money grab (especially in free games)? How is Epic the bad guy here when Steam is in a monopoly position? Epic should be commended for taking them on (and Apple and Google).
- spywaregorilla 5y agoThe epic game store is vastly inferior to steam. But it frequently has high quality games available for free. And epic is pretty good to the indie game dev community. I see no reason not to go for it. Appeals to quality don't seem particularly meaningful when the price of both is 0.
- tata71 5y agoGOG isn't real competition?
- tehbeard 5y agoBecause the competition is being done by throwing money at it... and not in the let's build a fantastic, quick and nice launcher with a world class user experience and amazing tools for developers... But in the same way VC funding artificially lowers the costs/prices to the consumer until they've captured a market and then bam, time to pump them for all they've got. I use it to just grab a game if it's free... and every time I realise they still haven't added dark mode to checkout to match the rest of the app, and get my retinas burnt by the sudden contrast flip.
- naikrovek 5y agoyou should learn more about Tim Sweeney. he is all about store openness. read his rants about the windows 8 and windows 10 store(s) for example.
- reificator 5y agoHaving not read them I would be shocked if they differed dramatically from the points Gabe Newell makes about those same stores. At the end of the day both companies are trying to avoid getting squeezed out by a platform-pack-in monopoly.
- naikrovek 5y agowell with a thick fuzzy qualifier like "differed dramatically" I can't say which side of that you'd end up on, but I can say that his views differ. they were different and compelling enough to get Microsoft to adopt most (maybe all, by now) of what he insisted upon.
- wruza 5y agoWe are all about happiness and openness until sufficient market share, then the music changes. Steam is a long player, egs seems to be a fast one, that’s it. You have a point, but don’t humanize corps too much.
- tehbeard 5y agoWhile I have no love for Apple or any of the other billion dollar techbro places, Sweeney was the one running the corp. (Epic Games) that deliberately violated a contract (let's leave the discussion of is 30% ethical/justifable for a app store on the table for the moment), and then used a pre-planned ad campaign to galvanise an under-18 fanbase to try and control the narrative, right?
- kgwxd 5y agoAll Steam-like clients are useless middlemen. More of them is not a good thing. Every desktop OS on the planet already has ways to install and manage programs, and they don't demand a cut.
- greensoysauce 5y agoBecause Tim is against gaming on Linux.
- drran 5y ago> Does it feel Zachtronics-y? Nope.
- kgwxd 5y agoNever seen it before, looks interesting. I'd rather spend $12 than install the Epic launcher, it's on GOG and Steam too.
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- keyle 5y agoHuhhh, I'm a huge epic games fan, I've used UE4 for years prior... but having to download another "steam" client for DRMs makes it a huge turn off. I don't need another launcher agent on my computer for your auto-update telemetry loving nonsense, for trying out a game I might not even like!
- naikrovek 5y agoit's like gamers WANT a monopoly. I do not understand capital-G Gamers, man. they're a very silly lot.
- morticiansflame 5y agoTBF, monopolies are convenient. It's simple & easy to get all your stuff on Amazon nice and quick, but then you get intense concentration of wealth and bad working conditions, for example. There's always this kind of contradiction between the convenience humans want, and the problems that come with any kind of monopoly.
- qudat 5y agoNatural monopolies are fine; coercive monopolies are not. As long as Valve offers a better product/service at a cheaper cost than their competition and that's why they have a monopoly, then there is nothing wrong with that.
- follower 5y agoThe people that you want to hear from are the developers of the games that Valve sells through Steam. And you probably won't hear from them about their experience. And that might cause you to wonder why.
- pseudalopex 5y agoThey said Steam and other stores taking 30% is too much. They had different complaints about reviews. They said positive things too. And they understood Steam gave customers more than other stores.
- fonix 5y agoWhat is with people and not wanting to install EGS on their pcs? Is it just the hip thing to do, they've seen it plastered all over reddit so they've decided to jump on board? It's another game store... they have 1-2 free games every single week, and they're not junk games. Get the free games on the website and when you come around to installing it someday you'll have a huge library. There was backlash against Steam when it first came out too, look now.
- Karsteski 5y agoYea it's a bit odd although I understand it. People want all their games in one place. That being said, as much as I love Valve, Steam and what they're doing for the gaming community, I definitely want more competition in the PC game market. Competition is ultimately beneficial for the consumer, after all :)
- Tomte 5y agoGOG's client can be connected to Steam and Epic accounts, so you have all games in one place.
- Karsteski 5y agoO, I didn't know this. Thanks for the tip!
- baumandm 5y agoBut it only runs on Windows, unfortunately.
- pseudalopex 5y agomacOS too.
- setpatchaddress 5y agoI use a PC as gaming console for my 4k TV. The EGS windows app is unusable on a 4k TV. Steam, GOG, and Ubisoft Connect all work fine on the same TV. On top of that, I don't like Epic's business and legal practices. Can't buy my soul with free games.