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Considering that Tesla is moving to LFP batteries which are much safer and less likely to catch fire and I think other auto makers are expected to follow. I wou
by KingMachiavelli 5y ago
Considering that Tesla is moving to LFP batteries which are much safer and less likely to catch fire and I think other auto makers are expected to follow. I would not be surprised if this is a none issue in a year or two. Are there any shipping cars using LFP batteries yet?
- brianwawok 5y agoAFAIK Tesla has no plans to move their high end cars to LFP. It's currently for cars made in China, and would be for the lower end cars, such as a standard range 3/y. X and S have no immediate plans to switch, or they would be at a competitive disadvantage to people like Lucid and Rivian.
- AtlasBarfed 5y agoLFP increasing density (200 wh/kg in 2022 according to CATL roadmap, 230 in 2023) is coming, but it's just the short range Model 3 that is feasible with LFP in the current state. All the sexy models (S, X, LR version, CT, etc) will be NMC for at least 2 years I'd guess. The 230 wh/kg LFP cells will probably be better than the 260 wh/kg NMC cells since pack level there's less cooling/safety needed. So if 2023 230 density is achieved, then we can talk. Solid state continues to be a nothingburger. It's strange that the Quantumscape 10 layer demo was such a news dud, which tells me that the major problems of scale and cost are still in prototype.