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Forget about HP for a minute. Are there any devs out there that are considering creating a WebOS app because of this new influx of users? I'm genuinely intere

by ddw 15y ago

Forget about HP for a minute. Are there any devs out there that are considering creating a WebOS app because of this new influx of users? I'm genuinely interested...perhaps it would be worth it.

bradly 15y ago
I have a developer device and have been following the threads in the WebOS developer forums and developers are pretty frustrated. Lots of people have purchased developer devices in the past 1-2 months and paid much more than the current fire sale prices. Also, registered developers are having to hunt to find retailers with existing $99 TouchPads, instead of HP giving WebOS developers early access to buying a device. If developers can't even get a development device when they want one, there isn't much hope for a diverse App Store
raganwald 15y ago
Ok, I’ll pretend to be a VC. So you make a WebOS game/app. What kind of users do you expect to have? A whole bunch of cheapos who bought the tablet because it was $99. And how much do you think those people will pay for your app? Next question. Word of mouth. If those people like your app, they’ll tell friends. Will those friends have WebOS tablets? Let’s talk about the lifetime value of your code base. How long can we expect to make sales of your app? After we have saturated the market of existing Touchpads, will there ever be another piece of hardware running WebOS to sell to new customers who might buy your app? ===== Right now, I’d say this is a cherry-picking exercise. If you can port an existing app to WebOS and make money on a short-term basis over and above your porting costs, fine. Otherwise... Android and iOS are the two front-runners with Windows-Phone-whatchamacallit a distant third. IMHO.
- w33ble 15y ago
  You're right, but I don't think OP is alone in thinking they way he does. Creating an app in pure HTML/CSS/JS and having it actaully run quickly is an interesting idea, and one that makes WebOS unique. The problem before was that there was almost nobody using the OS, but that's changed a bit now. Is it worth doing? Time will tell, but if you can bang out something quickly and not spend a lot of time/money getting it done, it might be worth a shot now.
  - ddw 15y ago
    Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm one of the cheapos that have the TP now and would definitely pay for apps if there was something worth paying for.
- jackson71 15y ago
  Anecdotally, webOS devs, given the low threshold of competition and influx of new Touchpad owners, are doing pretty fantastic sales right now. Good for a quick return at least. Since HP's also being charitable and giving away 6-packs of apps for free (and paying the dev for each one at full regular 70% share), a couple of those devs picked found themselves 5-figures richer overnight. No idea how long they intend to keep doing it, but it seems ongoing for now. Good platform for quick wins. Mid-term and longer, it'll largely depend on whether webOS finds new hardware with which to keep it alive.
  - w33ble 15y ago
    I think that's the key; new hardware. If HP relies on the TouchPad for any more than 6 months, a year tops, they'll completely lose out on all their efforts. They need someone else to make better and still cheap hardware to keep people interested and buying. There are simply too many Android devices coming out, each one better than the last (forcing a price reduction of the last), to ride their current wave for any longer than that. It's still very curious why they called an end to the hardware production BEFORE they had someone lined up to make new devices though.
- rodh257 15y ago
  Having just bought one of these, I'd say that I'm more likely to pay for apps as there is a short selection. For instance, on Android I wouldn't pay for Tweetdeck or similar, but on the touch pad I would, as there isn't many options.

by ddw 15y ago

Forget about HP for a minute. Are there any devs out there that are considering creating a WebOS app because of this new influx of users? I'm genuinely interested...perhaps it would be worth it.

bradly 15y ago

I have a developer device and have been following the threads in the WebOS developer forums and developers are pretty frustrated. Lots of people have purchased developer devices in the past 1-2 months and paid much more than the current fire sale prices. Also, registered developers are having to hunt to find retailers with existing $99 TouchPads, instead of HP giving WebOS developers early access to buying a device. If developers can't even get a development device when they want one, there isn't much hope for a diverse App Store

raganwald 15y ago

Ok, I’ll pretend to be a VC. So you make a WebOS game/app. What kind of users do you expect to have? A whole bunch of cheapos who bought the tablet because it was $99. And how much do you think those people will pay for your app? Next question. Word of mouth. If those people like your app, they’ll tell friends. Will those friends have WebOS tablets? Let’s talk about the lifetime value of your code base. How long can we expect to make sales of your app? After we have saturated the market of existing Touchpads, will there ever be another piece of hardware running WebOS to sell to new customers who might buy your app? ===== Right now, I’d say this is a cherry-picking exercise. If you can port an existing app to WebOS and make money on a short-term basis over and above your porting costs, fine. Otherwise... Android and iOS are the two front-runners with Windows-Phone-whatchamacallit a distant third. IMHO.

w33ble 15y ago
You're right, but I don't think OP is alone in thinking they way he does. Creating an app in pure HTML/CSS/JS and having it actaully run quickly is an interesting idea, and one that makes WebOS unique. The problem before was that there was almost nobody using the OS, but that's changed a bit now. Is it worth doing? Time will tell, but if you can bang out something quickly and not spend a lot of time/money getting it done, it might be worth a shot now.
- ddw 15y ago
  Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm one of the cheapos that have the TP now and would definitely pay for apps if there was something worth paying for.
jackson71 15y ago
Anecdotally, webOS devs, given the low threshold of competition and influx of new Touchpad owners, are doing pretty fantastic sales right now. Good for a quick return at least. Since HP's also being charitable and giving away 6-packs of apps for free (and paying the dev for each one at full regular 70% share), a couple of those devs picked found themselves 5-figures richer overnight. No idea how long they intend to keep doing it, but it seems ongoing for now. Good platform for quick wins. Mid-term and longer, it'll largely depend on whether webOS finds new hardware with which to keep it alive.
- w33ble 15y ago
  I think that's the key; new hardware. If HP relies on the TouchPad for any more than 6 months, a year tops, they'll completely lose out on all their efforts. They need someone else to make better and still cheap hardware to keep people interested and buying. There are simply too many Android devices coming out, each one better than the last (forcing a price reduction of the last), to ride their current wave for any longer than that. It's still very curious why they called an end to the hardware production BEFORE they had someone lined up to make new devices though.
rodh257 15y ago
Having just bought one of these, I'd say that I'm more likely to pay for apps as there is a short selection. For instance, on Android I wouldn't pay for Tweetdeck or similar, but on the touch pad I would, as there isn't many options.