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Well, grandparent poster is arguing this is a backdoor. Sure it is, but for me it's an acceptable backdoor, not comparable to encryption backdoors that governme
by bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Well, grandparent poster is arguing this is a backdoor. Sure it is, but for me it's an acceptable backdoor, not comparable to encryption backdoors that governments want, for example for messaging apps that use E2E encryption.
And of course just like any backdoor, the thieves seems to have managed to exploit it so they can steal the car without having the owner's key.
- athenot 5y agoYes. For cars, the risk is low, and there are mitigations such as insurance that can alleviate the pain. What I'm thinking is that if a car's backdoor becomes a mental concept for the general public, it might help popularize the concept of how backdoors in general can be abused. Probably acceptable for a car but not for one's life information. As of now, anytime backdoors to encryption are being "sold" by politicians, there's a messaging that goes along about how the backdoor is ultra-secure, similar to a military complex or a pile of gold in some fort. Of course it's not reality but it's the mental image many non-technical people have. So once there are a few stories about famous people (or relatives) who got their car's system backdoored, it will help raise public awareness of how inappropriate it is for things more important than cars. Maybe. I hope…
- ghaff 5y ago> how backdoors in general can be abused. Probably acceptable for a car but not for one's life information. While I agree about encryption generally, I'd say it depends and it depends on your definition of a backdoor. Probably the most straightforward question for which there is not a universal answer is whether you want the entity storing that (encrypted) information to be able to provide you with access to it if you have lost access to your password and standard recovery mechanisms.