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You know... Hacker News is built with a pretty-obscure framework IIRC that is little-used elsewhere, and we're all about open-source. It would almost make sense

You know... Hacker News is built with a pretty-obscure framework IIRC that is little-used elsewhere, and we're all about open-source. It would almost make sense to reimplement HN in something more common and then open-source it so that regular developers could make improvements.

jcims 5y ago
I'm solidly in the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' camp on that one.
- ryandvm 5y ago
  I'm solidly in the "Hacker News is the Craigslist of web forums" camp. It may not be broke, but there is a lot of room for improvement...
  - leetcrew 5y ago
    I actually love the design of Craigslist. it works well enough for you to find what you're looking for (if it exists), but it does not invite you to linger afterwards.
  - jcims 5y ago
    I have to be honest, the 'craigslist of web forums' is the entire appeal for me. It's simple, fast, low clutter and in my opinion benefits from great moderation and a general involvement from the community to avoid treating it like a gutter. I could be suffering from limited imagination, but I'm not really seeing major opportunities for improvement. Change? Yes, for sure, lots of ways to change the site but I don't know how they would result in an outcome of improved community or experience.
- footlose_3815 5y ago
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  - _hyn3 5y ago
    Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - footlose_3815 5y ago
      I never said that. I said exiled disinformation breathers are polluting HN because they were systematically exiled everywhere else for their dangerous views.
      - sillysaurusx 5y ago
        Isn't it interesting in threads like these that no one ever seems to link to specific examples of their claims? The commenter may not have quoted you the right rule, but their heart was in the right place. This thread is about building an HN clone, but you've taken it political. You'll need to not want to do that if you want to continue participating on HN. Otherwise it's a matter of time.
      - jcims 5y ago
        You kind of did though. The website itself hasn't materially changed, so 'HN turning into Reddit' conversation isn't about the features of the application we're using here. It's always about some migration of 'undesirables' into the community. To be honest, I find your foamy characterizations of the folks you're describing fairly toxic as well.
  - bloopernova 5y ago
    Fully agreed. I've noticed so many political bait comments in the past year or so, and loads of weasel-worded antivax misinformation. Some comments also seem to be trying to push subtle anti-science and anti-left stances, whereas before mostly people just stuck to the technical side of things. As per usual, the all-trite ruins everything they touch.
fibbberMEN 5y ago
There are several re implementations and browser addons on github. They don't really seem interested, while the user base might be.
platz 5y ago
improvements, like, making yourself supreme ruler?
- gurchik 5y ago
  > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
fit2rule 5y ago
Yeah I can think of a thousand reasons why I'd like a fork.
xdfgh1112 5y ago
It's fine as it is, do we really want it to go the direction of Reddit with broken navigation, live chat, typing notifications?
sillysaurusx 5y ago
I maintain a pretty high quality implementation of Hacker News. https://github.com/tensorfork/tlarc https://github.com/tensorfork/tlarc It has bcrypt, HN's current CSS, and so on. We use it to manage our TPUs: http://www.tensorfork.com/tpus http://www.tensorfork.com/tpus Improvements welcome. The nicest part is how quickly you can iterate on a webpage. The production site pulls from github every 10 seconds, and everything reloads on demand, so I can just push new code to master and see the changes instantly. (No need to push to github just to see changes locally, of course. Every time you reload, it checks whether any loaded files have changed.)

jcims 5y ago

I'm solidly in the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' camp on that one.

ryandvm 5y ago
I'm solidly in the "Hacker News is the Craigslist of web forums" camp. It may not be broke, but there is a lot of room for improvement...
- leetcrew 5y ago
  I actually love the design of Craigslist. it works well enough for you to find what you're looking for (if it exists), but it does not invite you to linger afterwards.
- jcims 5y ago
  I have to be honest, the 'craigslist of web forums' is the entire appeal for me. It's simple, fast, low clutter and in my opinion benefits from great moderation and a general involvement from the community to avoid treating it like a gutter. I could be suffering from limited imagination, but I'm not really seeing major opportunities for improvement. Change? Yes, for sure, lots of ways to change the site but I don't know how they would result in an outcome of improved community or experience.
footlose_3815 5y ago
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- _hyn3 5y ago
  Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - footlose_3815 5y ago
    I never said that. I said exiled disinformation breathers are polluting HN because they were systematically exiled everywhere else for their dangerous views.
    - sillysaurusx 5y ago
      Isn't it interesting in threads like these that no one ever seems to link to specific examples of their claims? The commenter may not have quoted you the right rule, but their heart was in the right place. This thread is about building an HN clone, but you've taken it political. You'll need to not want to do that if you want to continue participating on HN. Otherwise it's a matter of time.
    - jcims 5y ago
      You kind of did though. The website itself hasn't materially changed, so 'HN turning into Reddit' conversation isn't about the features of the application we're using here. It's always about some migration of 'undesirables' into the community. To be honest, I find your foamy characterizations of the folks you're describing fairly toxic as well.
- bloopernova 5y ago
  Fully agreed. I've noticed so many political bait comments in the past year or so, and loads of weasel-worded antivax misinformation. Some comments also seem to be trying to push subtle anti-science and anti-left stances, whereas before mostly people just stuck to the technical side of things. As per usual, the all-trite ruins everything they touch.

fibbberMEN 5y ago

There are several re implementations and browser addons on github. They don't really seem interested, while the user base might be.

platz 5y ago

improvements, like, making yourself supreme ruler?

gurchik 5y ago
> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

fit2rule 5y ago

Yeah I can think of a thousand reasons why I'd like a fork.

xdfgh1112 5y ago

It's fine as it is, do we really want it to go the direction of Reddit with broken navigation, live chat, typing notifications?

sillysaurusx 5y ago

I maintain a pretty high quality implementation of Hacker News. https://github.com/tensorfork/tlarc https://github.com/tensorfork/tlarc It has bcrypt, HN's current CSS, and so on. We use it to manage our TPUs: http://www.tensorfork.com/tpus http://www.tensorfork.com/tpus Improvements welcome. The nicest part is how quickly you can iterate on a webpage. The production site pulls from github every 10 seconds, and everything reloads on demand, so I can just push new code to master and see the changes instantly. (No need to push to github just to see changes locally, of course. Every time you reload, it checks whether any loaded files have changed.)