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(With apologies to Churchill) Many forms of commerce have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect

(With apologies to Churchill) Many forms of commerce have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that capitalism is the worst form of commerce except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. But honestly, GGP replying with a one word answer "Capitalism" and to paraphrase your reply >"The system has brainwashed you" does no one here any good. Please expound on what system you would like to see implemented and why it would not have this problem. You will probably have to defend your ideas but that is what debate is for.

ziddoap 5y ago
>Please expound on what system you would like to see implemented and why it would not have this problem. While I agree simply saying "capitalism" and hand-waving at "brainwashing" are both not great conversation starters, your demands are equally unhelpful, no matter how nicely you phrase it. One does not require a solution to a problem in order to identify a problem.
7sidedmarble 5y ago
>But honestly, GGP replying with a one word answer "Capitalism" and to paraphrase your reply >"The system has brainwashed you" does no one here any good. Please expound on what system you would like to see implemented and why it would not have this problem. Do you not see the double standard in this very post of yours? You're chastising him with 'please recommend what system we should use then' and at the same time claiming the advantage to capitalism is that it's an imperfect system, yet still better then anything else we've come up with. If you believe human beings have not thought of any better systems or ideas, then why would you ask him to produce one, other then you would just shut it down with that same argument? It just seems intellectually lazy. If you believe this then no one could ever sway you. At that point don't pretend to be interested in hearing alternatives, just say you've made up your mind.

ziddoap 5y ago

>Please expound on what system you would like to see implemented and why it would not have this problem. While I agree simply saying "capitalism" and hand-waving at "brainwashing" are both not great conversation starters, your demands are equally unhelpful, no matter how nicely you phrase it. One does not require a solution to a problem in order to identify a problem.

7sidedmarble 5y ago

>But honestly, GGP replying with a one word answer "Capitalism" and to paraphrase your reply >"The system has brainwashed you" does no one here any good. Please expound on what system you would like to see implemented and why it would not have this problem. Do you not see the double standard in this very post of yours? You're chastising him with 'please recommend what system we should use then' and at the same time claiming the advantage to capitalism is that it's an imperfect system, yet still better then anything else we've come up with. If you believe human beings have not thought of any better systems or ideas, then why would you ask him to produce one, other then you would just shut it down with that same argument? It just seems intellectually lazy. If you believe this then no one could ever sway you. At that point don't pretend to be interested in hearing alternatives, just say you've made up your mind.