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"Israel’s leading tabloid, Yedioth Ahronoth" Huh, Yedioth Ahronot is a tabloid? It's centrist, it's no tabloid. It's probably the most important newspaper in t

"Israel’s leading tabloid, Yedioth Ahronoth" Huh, Yedioth Ahronot is a tabloid? It's centrist, it's no tabloid. It's probably the most important newspaper in the country still. Sorry this article is trash and the topic has been beaten to death here on HN. Stop with the Israel obsession please, this should be flagged.

downWidOutaFite 5y ago
Nope not going to stop until they stop exporting cyber weapons for profit.
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Hacker News Guidelines What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Seems more off topic to me. It's not new, it's political (arguably also criminal) and it's not a new phenomenon. It has been discussed dozens of times throughout the years on HN.
  - ryanlol 5y ago
    This is interesting, even if it paints your favourite gang of thugs in a bad light. There are always other posts you can move on to if this one bothers you.
james-redwood 5y ago
Big red flag. Yedioth is a newspaper along the lines of the NYTimes but for Israel. Nowhere near a tabloid
- Eelongate 5y ago
  The term tabloid has a literal meaning besides the pejorative meaning. The format of Yedioth is tabloid, not broadsheet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_(newspaper_format) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_(newspaper_format)
- flyinglizard 5y ago
  Nitpicking, but the equivalent Israeli publication to NYTimes would be Haaretz.
  - joelbluminator 5y ago
    Haaretz is about 50% non Zionist (looking at the regular writers like Gideon Levi, Amira Haas, most guest columns and not to mention the Arab writers). It represents the views of maybe 5-10% of Jewish Israelis and I think I'm being generous. The NYTimes while very progressive, has a much broader base than Haaretz (at least I think. It also changed a lot lately).
    - flyinglizard 5y ago
      They are similar publications to the point many articles in Haaretz are translated from NYT. Both have progressive editorial lines and a similar interest in culture. Elitist is maybe the word. However Haaretz routinely publishes opinions against the editorial line and has a cadre of right wing writers, whereas NYT has a shit storm and people losing their jobs over an op-ed by Sen. Tom Cotton. Haaretz is much more neutral as a whole (by allowing both extremes) and still tries to adhere to old school newspaper values; NYT since 2016 became a tool of progressive indoctrination. I never feel that reading Haaretz.
      - montblanc 5y ago
        > However Haaretz routinely publishes opinions against the editorial line NYT also has Bret Stephens , up until recently Bari Weiss and I assume there are a few more centrists? Haaretz tries to challenge its readers with opinions from the other spectrum I'd agree with that. But still, every Israel knows it's a left wing and recently a borderline anti Zionist newspaper ( I don't think Haaretz themselves will dispute this. Their writers acknowledge anti Zionism repeatedly). The fact it has an anti Zionist line, which basically goes against the idea of the country itself, makes it a very niche product. Also let's not forget the left is now in power in the U.S, and even on a bad day it gets almost 50% of the vote. In Israel what Haaretz would call left is 5%-10% of the votes (Meretz and thats pretty much it).
padraic7a 5y ago
A tabloid isnt by necessity left or right wing. It's a physical format, and also a style of news writing and delivery. In the UK the Mirror is more or less left meaning while the Sun is very right wing.
nanna 5y ago
It's a non sequitor to call the article "trash" because of an issue taken with a passing description of Yedioth Ahronoth as a tabloid. (Especially when it's physical format is that of a tabloid rather than broadsheet).
eli_gottlieb 5y ago
Yediot is literally a tabloid. It is published in tabloid format. That's all that's meant. Every Israeli paper except for Haaretz is in tablet format rather than broadsheet, so the American assumption that "tabloid = trash and fake news" while "broadsheet = real journalism" doesn't port over at all.

downWidOutaFite 5y ago

Nope not going to stop until they stop exporting cyber weapons for profit.

joelbluminator 5y ago
Hacker News Guidelines What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Seems more off topic to me. It's not new, it's political (arguably also criminal) and it's not a new phenomenon. It has been discussed dozens of times throughout the years on HN.
- ryanlol 5y ago
  This is interesting, even if it paints your favourite gang of thugs in a bad light. There are always other posts you can move on to if this one bothers you.

james-redwood 5y ago

Big red flag. Yedioth is a newspaper along the lines of the NYTimes but for Israel. Nowhere near a tabloid

Eelongate 5y ago
The term tabloid has a literal meaning besides the pejorative meaning. The format of Yedioth is tabloid, not broadsheet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_(newspaper_format) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_(newspaper_format)
flyinglizard 5y ago
Nitpicking, but the equivalent Israeli publication to NYTimes would be Haaretz.
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Haaretz is about 50% non Zionist (looking at the regular writers like Gideon Levi, Amira Haas, most guest columns and not to mention the Arab writers). It represents the views of maybe 5-10% of Jewish Israelis and I think I'm being generous. The NYTimes while very progressive, has a much broader base than Haaretz (at least I think. It also changed a lot lately).
  - flyinglizard 5y ago
    They are similar publications to the point many articles in Haaretz are translated from NYT. Both have progressive editorial lines and a similar interest in culture. Elitist is maybe the word. However Haaretz routinely publishes opinions against the editorial line and has a cadre of right wing writers, whereas NYT has a shit storm and people losing their jobs over an op-ed by Sen. Tom Cotton. Haaretz is much more neutral as a whole (by allowing both extremes) and still tries to adhere to old school newspaper values; NYT since 2016 became a tool of progressive indoctrination. I never feel that reading Haaretz.
    - montblanc 5y ago
      > However Haaretz routinely publishes opinions against the editorial line NYT also has Bret Stephens , up until recently Bari Weiss and I assume there are a few more centrists? Haaretz tries to challenge its readers with opinions from the other spectrum I'd agree with that. But still, every Israel knows it's a left wing and recently a borderline anti Zionist newspaper ( I don't think Haaretz themselves will dispute this. Their writers acknowledge anti Zionism repeatedly). The fact it has an anti Zionist line, which basically goes against the idea of the country itself, makes it a very niche product. Also let's not forget the left is now in power in the U.S, and even on a bad day it gets almost 50% of the vote. In Israel what Haaretz would call left is 5%-10% of the votes (Meretz and thats pretty much it).

padraic7a 5y ago

A tabloid isnt by necessity left or right wing. It's a physical format, and also a style of news writing and delivery. In the UK the Mirror is more or less left meaning while the Sun is very right wing.

nanna 5y ago

It's a non sequitor to call the article "trash" because of an issue taken with a passing description of Yedioth Ahronoth as a tabloid. (Especially when it's physical format is that of a tabloid rather than broadsheet).

eli_gottlieb 5y ago

Yediot is literally a tabloid. It is published in tabloid format. That's all that's meant. Every Israeli paper except for Haaretz is in tablet format rather than broadsheet, so the American assumption that "tabloid = trash and fake news" while "broadsheet = real journalism" doesn't port over at all.