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i think this is pretty misleading. apple silicon started in 2010, it was a decade in the making. how can this be reconciled with "nobody knew what their plans f

by bllguo 5y ago

i think this is pretty misleading. apple silicon started in 2010, it was a decade in the making. how can this be reconciled with "nobody knew what their plans for ARM were"

jolux 5y ago
In hindsight it’s easy to say that, but would you have guessed in advance that they would succeed like they have? In the span of a year they have made x86-based products look obsolete.
- soneil 5y ago
  My biggest worry for Apple Silicon was that ARM’s obviously only suited for mobile devices, so it’d only really land in the Air, maybe mb13 - with the concern that this would cause fracturing where “pro” apps were intel only and armbook turned into an AppStore full of flatulent soundboards. ARM seemed obvious but their results certainly didn’t.
- ksec 5y ago
  >but would you have guessed in advance that they would succeed like they have? Not guessed but projected. I was called an idiot, or son of bitch liar when I suggested its Geekbench score along with all other performance metric it was faster with A12. Only to be met with Intel Fan boys saying Geekbench is not reliable because of a Linus' comment ( That was on Geekbench 3 in case you are wondering, he is fine with GB4 ). x86-based products look obsolete because Intel is now one and half node behind, and nearly 2 generation ( or three years ) of uArch behind their original schedule. And TSMC will officially leap ahead of Intel no later than 2020. I make that projection in 2014. That was before 99% of the internet even knew what TSMC was. From 2011 to 2019. Dumb, stupid, idiot, Intel will get their 10nm done. Intel will have capacity expansion. You dont think the analyst would notice their lack of CapEx? Those were the words of many including senior analyst, two ex Intel engineers, current senior editor. It was only starting in 2020 everything was proven to be correct. ( And they shall remain nameless. But the records are still on certain forums and twitter ) It was painfully obvious. And yet somehow most want to believe the mainstream media narrative rather than actually think and analyse it themselves.
- halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
  The jury is still out on Apple Silicon. Initial reception was incredibly positive but let's let it all marinate and see what happens. One of the things I think Apple does best is reads the tea leaves on where things are headed, takes their time to develop a solid product but a couple years after they launch, are met with stiff competition on what is considered "best".
  - CharlesW 5y ago
    > The jury is still out on Apple Silicon. In no sense is the jury still out. The x86 hegemony on laptops and desktops is dead.
- bllguo 5y ago
  no doubt the performance is impressive. it just sounded like you thought apple developed m1 faster than the process actually took. a very minor quibble

by bllguo 5y ago

i think this is pretty misleading. apple silicon started in 2010, it was a decade in the making. how can this be reconciled with "nobody knew what their plans for ARM were"

jolux 5y ago

In hindsight it’s easy to say that, but would you have guessed in advance that they would succeed like they have? In the span of a year they have made x86-based products look obsolete.

soneil 5y ago
My biggest worry for Apple Silicon was that ARM’s obviously only suited for mobile devices, so it’d only really land in the Air, maybe mb13 - with the concern that this would cause fracturing where “pro” apps were intel only and armbook turned into an AppStore full of flatulent soundboards. ARM seemed obvious but their results certainly didn’t.
ksec 5y ago
>but would you have guessed in advance that they would succeed like they have? Not guessed but projected. I was called an idiot, or son of bitch liar when I suggested its Geekbench score along with all other performance metric it was faster with A12. Only to be met with Intel Fan boys saying Geekbench is not reliable because of a Linus' comment ( That was on Geekbench 3 in case you are wondering, he is fine with GB4 ). x86-based products look obsolete because Intel is now one and half node behind, and nearly 2 generation ( or three years ) of uArch behind their original schedule. And TSMC will officially leap ahead of Intel no later than 2020. I make that projection in 2014. That was before 99% of the internet even knew what TSMC was. From 2011 to 2019. Dumb, stupid, idiot, Intel will get their 10nm done. Intel will have capacity expansion. You dont think the analyst would notice their lack of CapEx? Those were the words of many including senior analyst, two ex Intel engineers, current senior editor. It was only starting in 2020 everything was proven to be correct. ( And they shall remain nameless. But the records are still on certain forums and twitter ) It was painfully obvious. And yet somehow most want to believe the mainstream media narrative rather than actually think and analyse it themselves.
halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
The jury is still out on Apple Silicon. Initial reception was incredibly positive but let's let it all marinate and see what happens. One of the things I think Apple does best is reads the tea leaves on where things are headed, takes their time to develop a solid product but a couple years after they launch, are met with stiff competition on what is considered "best".
- CharlesW 5y ago
  > The jury is still out on Apple Silicon. In no sense is the jury still out. The x86 hegemony on laptops and desktops is dead.
bllguo 5y ago
no doubt the performance is impressive. it just sounded like you thought apple developed m1 faster than the process actually took. a very minor quibble