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If you are vaccinated how is an unvaccinated person a threat to you? Seriously - how?

by EricE 5y ago

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SamTwardowski 5y ago
Spiritually, you represent threat. I am holy and those around me must be holy as well.
m4rtink 5y ago
By causing hospitals to be overloaded so I or people close to me can't be treated in an emergency? Not to mention all the hospital personnel having one more wave of hell to endure. By giving, possibly repeatedly so much viral lead to old people I know that they might end up in a hospital even when fully vaccinated? By being essentially a petri dish for creating new harmful variants?
- disambiguation 5y ago
  The only potentially valid point here is hospital overload. Everything else you listed applies to the vaccinated as well. Let's start by agreeing that hospital overload is definitely a bad thing. Vaccination should help reduce the load, but has anything else been done? Hasn't staff in hospitals decreased over the course of the pandemic? Aren't we funneling tons of money to pharma instead of Frontline workers? What about setting up field hospitals? What about altering the priority access to emergency health care of the unvaccinated? Hospital overload has been a liminal crisis for the past 2 years, but has yet to materialize as a real issue. Have we just been getting lucky? narrowly avoiding disaster each wave? Because this is almost starting to look like a boogeyman that pops up on a regular basis that reminds us that we need to live in fear.
  - Krasnol 5y ago
    > Vaccination should help reduce the load, but has anything else been done? Hasn't staff in hospitals decreased over the course of the pandemic? Aren't we funneling tons of money to pharma People can go and get a jab. This is easy. Can be done in minutes. No harm done. You can't build a hospital like that or get personal cloned from some pool of educated personal. Even if we'd have started 2 years ago. Wtf do you want with a field hospital? Those people don't need bandages...what are you talking about?? I know this smokescreen it just came up all over the anti-vaxxer scene. It's a hilarious attempt to cloud their own responsibility and divert the anger away from them. It won't work because it's so cheap and stupid. Especially coming from people who refuse to accept the easiest and fastest solution. And NO, hospital overload is the only valid point. By spreading and keeping the pandemic running you also ruin peoples lifes economically. People who depend on crowds coming to their store for example or doing sports with them. Than there is long COVID... Man...this topic is not new. All those ways this is harmful has been presented in the media over the last years. How can you still be so ignoran December 2021????
    - disambiguation 5y ago
      Breathe. Field hospitals were proposed early on in 2020, they even sent the medical ship to NY up the Hudson. Its not my idea and it's not a new idea. If you're not aware of that, then I'm sorry for assuming the extent of your awareness. We don't have to clone anyone. We can do 2 very easy things: 1. Rehire the unvaccinated that were let go. 2. Pay our front line workers more. Everyone should support this. It's an easy win. As someone who's unvaccinated and had covid, I honestly don't know what long covid is or why we should be afraid of it anymore than the long term effects of the vaccine. Though if you fell for one boogeyman, it makes sense that you'd fall for another. Covid is out of the box, economic damage is inevitable. How much is up to us. If you look at Florida, Sweden, or even the Amish, it's clear lockdowns do more economic harm than covid does. Last but not least, I'll say it again. Hospital collapse has been a liminal crisis for 2 years. We have more vaccinated than ever before yet were still somehow on the brink of collapse. Nothing has been done about it except to scape goat the unvaccinated. People are going to be unvaccinated. The vaccine is going to wear off. Try doing something about it instead of dehumanizing people you disagree with. Enough is enough.

If you are vaccinated how is an unvaccinated person a threat to you? Seriously - how?

by EricE 5y ago

If you are vaccinated how is an unvaccinated person a threat to you? Seriously - how?

deleted 5y ago

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SamTwardowski 5y ago

Spiritually, you represent threat. I am holy and those around me must be holy as well.

m4rtink 5y ago

By causing hospitals to be overloaded so I or people close to me can't be treated in an emergency? Not to mention all the hospital personnel having one more wave of hell to endure. By giving, possibly repeatedly so much viral lead to old people I know that they might end up in a hospital even when fully vaccinated? By being essentially a petri dish for creating new harmful variants?

disambiguation 5y ago
The only potentially valid point here is hospital overload. Everything else you listed applies to the vaccinated as well. Let's start by agreeing that hospital overload is definitely a bad thing. Vaccination should help reduce the load, but has anything else been done? Hasn't staff in hospitals decreased over the course of the pandemic? Aren't we funneling tons of money to pharma instead of Frontline workers? What about setting up field hospitals? What about altering the priority access to emergency health care of the unvaccinated? Hospital overload has been a liminal crisis for the past 2 years, but has yet to materialize as a real issue. Have we just been getting lucky? narrowly avoiding disaster each wave? Because this is almost starting to look like a boogeyman that pops up on a regular basis that reminds us that we need to live in fear.
- Krasnol 5y ago
  > Vaccination should help reduce the load, but has anything else been done? Hasn't staff in hospitals decreased over the course of the pandemic? Aren't we funneling tons of money to pharma People can go and get a jab. This is easy. Can be done in minutes. No harm done. You can't build a hospital like that or get personal cloned from some pool of educated personal. Even if we'd have started 2 years ago. Wtf do you want with a field hospital? Those people don't need bandages...what are you talking about?? I know this smokescreen it just came up all over the anti-vaxxer scene. It's a hilarious attempt to cloud their own responsibility and divert the anger away from them. It won't work because it's so cheap and stupid. Especially coming from people who refuse to accept the easiest and fastest solution. And NO, hospital overload is the only valid point. By spreading and keeping the pandemic running you also ruin peoples lifes economically. People who depend on crowds coming to their store for example or doing sports with them. Than there is long COVID... Man...this topic is not new. All those ways this is harmful has been presented in the media over the last years. How can you still be so ignoran December 2021????
  - disambiguation 5y ago
    Breathe. Field hospitals were proposed early on in 2020, they even sent the medical ship to NY up the Hudson. Its not my idea and it's not a new idea. If you're not aware of that, then I'm sorry for assuming the extent of your awareness. We don't have to clone anyone. We can do 2 very easy things: 1. Rehire the unvaccinated that were let go. 2. Pay our front line workers more. Everyone should support this. It's an easy win. As someone who's unvaccinated and had covid, I honestly don't know what long covid is or why we should be afraid of it anymore than the long term effects of the vaccine. Though if you fell for one boogeyman, it makes sense that you'd fall for another. Covid is out of the box, economic damage is inevitable. How much is up to us. If you look at Florida, Sweden, or even the Amish, it's clear lockdowns do more economic harm than covid does. Last but not least, I'll say it again. Hospital collapse has been a liminal crisis for 2 years. We have more vaccinated than ever before yet were still somehow on the brink of collapse. Nothing has been done about it except to scape goat the unvaccinated. People are going to be unvaccinated. The vaccine is going to wear off. Try doing something about it instead of dehumanizing people you disagree with. Enough is enough.