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My partner was diagnosed with cervical cancer a couple of months ago and is now on the brink of starting radio- & chemotherapy. Due to the covid situation here

My partner was diagnosed with cervical cancer a couple of months ago and is now on the brink of starting radio- & chemotherapy. Due to the covid situation here in the Netherlands the treatment may not go ahead as planned, and treatment might get delayed, due to the new measures. I then know of people who's heart surgaries have been delayed 5x times due to the stress covid is putting on the health care system in another country. Please, get vacinated/boosted and if possible convince a close one to do too.

bruce343434 5y ago
With the recent evidence of spiking infections and other events, I am no longer convinced vaccines are a good measure. The Netherlands is 85% vaccinated. They said we would get herd immunity at only 70%, and yet here we are with talks of "boosters", at the brink of yet another lockdown, due to yet another spike in infections. I think we need to simply get sick at large, get better and stay immune. We need to get it over with. Yes, some will die. People are mortal. Can we get over it and end this madness? It's nature. You are not going to win against it. Let's get mass sick. It will suck for, what, 2 months at most? And then the strong have survived and we can get back to normal. Covid is inevitable. Let's face it.
- ikrenji 5y ago
  no thank you. you let your body be ravaged by an exotic viral disease from asian bats. I will take my booster
  - bruce343434 5y ago
    Would it be less bad if the virus was bred on Dutch grounds by another animal? Otherwise I am not sure what your are implying or why you bring it up.
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    - TheRealNGenius 5y ago
      What if the virus was man-made from a lab? Big Pharma, the ones who have the most to gain from selling vaccines, are also the ones most capable of genetically engineering modified viruses. This is just a thought that I've had in the back of my head, and I'm not saying that this is the case, since the ethical implications of this would be severe. But I do often hear in media that tech companies prioritize profits over people...
- sasaf5 5y ago
  Or you can get the same result from vaccines, without having to kill a few %.
  - bruce343434 5y ago
    So far I have gotten sicker from my vaccines than the coronavirus. I am NOT going to get boosters, fuck that. I'm not going to get revaccinated every once in a while. Sorry, humanity can deal with it. Vaccines don't work well enough, clearly. I did everything right. I got vaccinated. I isolated. I endured lockdown. I did not go out frivolously. I wore masks when I needed to go out anyway. What could I have done differently? This whole thing, it's just not working. I want freedom back.
    - sasaf5 5y ago
      The plural of anecdote is not data. I am sorry for your negative reaction, but in aggregate the vaccines are much better than catching covid. "This whole thing is not working" because of the 30% odd who prefer not to do their part and walk around as potential virus factories.
      - bruce343434 5y ago
        I literally don't care. I want freedom back. I'm done with this whole thing. Also, you meant 15% since we (I at least, see GP) was talking about the Netherlands. This is what democracy looks like. 15% does not want it. The country should form itself to support that, to support what the people want. I got my vaccines, we'll see how well they protect me if (when) I get sick. Shit happens.
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        MrDresden 5y ago
        I see. Well if you are going to be the steriotypical self centered prick of a person that I'd expect those who think like that to be, then do me and everyone else who needs a working healthcare system a favor; If and when you become ill from the virus, stay at home. Don't call the emergency services nor go to a clinic/hospital. You don't deserve their services if you are, as you describe, going to be playing a game of roulette with other people's health as the stakes. If you have that shit happen to you, then own it. You made that bed for your self.
Bellend 5y ago
Sorry to hear that MrDresden. I hope your partner's care is successful going forward and it can be expedited as a high priority case.
- MrDresden 5y ago
  Thank you. We are hoping that as well, everyday.

bruce343434 5y ago

With the recent evidence of spiking infections and other events, I am no longer convinced vaccines are a good measure. The Netherlands is 85% vaccinated. They said we would get herd immunity at only 70%, and yet here we are with talks of "boosters", at the brink of yet another lockdown, due to yet another spike in infections. I think we need to simply get sick at large, get better and stay immune. We need to get it over with. Yes, some will die. People are mortal. Can we get over it and end this madness? It's nature. You are not going to win against it. Let's get mass sick. It will suck for, what, 2 months at most? And then the strong have survived and we can get back to normal. Covid is inevitable. Let's face it.

ikrenji 5y ago
no thank you. you let your body be ravaged by an exotic viral disease from asian bats. I will take my booster
- bruce343434 5y ago
  Would it be less bad if the virus was bred on Dutch grounds by another animal? Otherwise I am not sure what your are implying or why you bring it up.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - TheRealNGenius 5y ago
    What if the virus was man-made from a lab? Big Pharma, the ones who have the most to gain from selling vaccines, are also the ones most capable of genetically engineering modified viruses. This is just a thought that I've had in the back of my head, and I'm not saying that this is the case, since the ethical implications of this would be severe. But I do often hear in media that tech companies prioritize profits over people...
sasaf5 5y ago
Or you can get the same result from vaccines, without having to kill a few %.
- bruce343434 5y ago
  So far I have gotten sicker from my vaccines than the coronavirus. I am NOT going to get boosters, fuck that. I'm not going to get revaccinated every once in a while. Sorry, humanity can deal with it. Vaccines don't work well enough, clearly. I did everything right. I got vaccinated. I isolated. I endured lockdown. I did not go out frivolously. I wore masks when I needed to go out anyway. What could I have done differently? This whole thing, it's just not working. I want freedom back.
  - sasaf5 5y ago
    The plural of anecdote is not data. I am sorry for your negative reaction, but in aggregate the vaccines are much better than catching covid. "This whole thing is not working" because of the 30% odd who prefer not to do their part and walk around as potential virus factories.
    - bruce343434 5y ago
      I literally don't care. I want freedom back. I'm done with this whole thing. Also, you meant 15% since we (I at least, see GP) was talking about the Netherlands. This is what democracy looks like. 15% does not want it. The country should form itself to support that, to support what the people want. I got my vaccines, we'll see how well they protect me if (when) I get sick. Shit happens.
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      - MrDresden 5y ago
        I see. Well if you are going to be the steriotypical self centered prick of a person that I'd expect those who think like that to be, then do me and everyone else who needs a working healthcare system a favor; If and when you become ill from the virus, stay at home. Don't call the emergency services nor go to a clinic/hospital. You don't deserve their services if you are, as you describe, going to be playing a game of roulette with other people's health as the stakes. If you have that shit happen to you, then own it. You made that bed for your self.

Bellend 5y ago

Sorry to hear that MrDresden. I hope your partner's care is successful going forward and it can be expedited as a high priority case.

MrDresden 5y ago
Thank you. We are hoping that as well, everyday.