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Utter insanity. Who told you a "real" lockdown would stop the virus? Where did you get this "fact" from?

rbanffy 5y ago
In theory, if no household has any contact with any other household, the virus will be unable to propagate and will quickly die off. A perfect lockdown would stop a human-only pandemic immediately by stopping all transmission. Unfortunately, this virus infect other animals as well. Good luck locking them down.
- smorgusofborg 5y ago
  There are numerous reasons why we are incapable of a perfect lockdown of a region of any reasonable scale even before economic concerns. So it's use as a solution is more of a whataboutism for not considering reasonable actions.
- tick_tock_tick 5y ago
  How will you address the animal reserves? This virus is not eradicable.
  - m4rtink 5y ago
    Do we know it can actually stay in animals long term in a form compatible with humans?
- stkdump 5y ago
  I don't think this is true. The virus can survive in some for a long time. Same as with the flu. I think the endemic phase is absolutely inevitable. The only question is how long does it take, and how many people will be killed in the process. Both can only be reduced with vaxxination.
tablespoon 5y ago
>> Yes the vaccine doesn't kill it, but what would kill it is a REAL lock down. >>> Give everyone 2 months of salary, and 2 months of food. Nationalize food production for a month, give everyone shelf stable terrible food, the same crap that the majority of the anti-vaxxers have been hoarding for decades. > Utter insanity. Who told you a "real" lockdown would stop the virus? Where did you get this "fact" from? It stands to reason. An extreme lockdown as described will cause a virus to go extinct provided: 1) animal reservoirs are insignificant, 2) the immune system can clear the virus within the lockdown time, and 3) people actually comply. Exceptions to 2 & 3 can likely be dealt if the lockdown is paired with and intensive testing and contact tracing program. All of these things are likely true, because China and other countries have actually been successful at maintaining a Covid-zero policy (at great cost).

In theory, if no household has any contact with any other household, the virus will be unable to propagate and will quickly die off. A perfect lockdown would stop a human-only pandemic immediately by stopping all transmission. Unfortunately, this virus infect other animals as well. Good luck locking them down.

smorgusofborg 5y ago
There are numerous reasons why we are incapable of a perfect lockdown of a region of any reasonable scale even before economic concerns. So it's use as a solution is more of a whataboutism for not considering reasonable actions.
tick_tock_tick 5y ago
How will you address the animal reserves? This virus is not eradicable.
- m4rtink 5y ago
  Do we know it can actually stay in animals long term in a form compatible with humans?
stkdump 5y ago
I don't think this is true. The virus can survive in some for a long time. Same as with the flu. I think the endemic phase is absolutely inevitable. The only question is how long does it take, and how many people will be killed in the process. Both can only be reduced with vaxxination.

tablespoon 5y ago

>> Yes the vaccine doesn't kill it, but what would kill it is a REAL lock down. >>> Give everyone 2 months of salary, and 2 months of food. Nationalize food production for a month, give everyone shelf stable terrible food, the same crap that the majority of the anti-vaxxers have been hoarding for decades. > Utter insanity. Who told you a "real" lockdown would stop the virus? Where did you get this "fact" from? It stands to reason. An extreme lockdown as described will cause a virus to go extinct provided: 1) animal reservoirs are insignificant, 2) the immune system can clear the virus within the lockdown time, and 3) people actually comply. Exceptions to 2 & 3 can likely be dealt if the lockdown is paired with and intensive testing and contact tracing program. All of these things are likely true, because China and other countries have actually been successful at maintaining a Covid-zero policy (at great cost).