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ARM was never good for open hardware designs. It wasn’t better before what you think Nvidia will do either. Look at the state of Linux kernel updates on ARM ch

ARM was never good for open hardware designs. It wasn’t better before what you think Nvidia will do either. Look at the state of Linux kernel updates on ARM chips.

turminal 5y ago
You seem to be making a lot of bad faith arguments in this comment section. Why are you defending this deal so ferociously?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  What is in bad faith? It’s assumed that ARM support is good now. I’d like to see more Tegra type chips, an open ARM device with updates Linux drivers from the manufacturer. I’d love to be pointed to a better one if you have it. I think what nvidia does with Linux GPUs is awful, but it is very different how they treat their ARM processors. Please point me to good open ARM processor manufacturers that uploads good Linux updates, I’ll be happy to be wrong that the Jetson really isn’t the best.
  - necovek 5y ago
    All the SoCs available from https://www.96boards.org/ https://www.96boards.org/ should have good mainline Linux support. "Good manufacturers" today contribute directly to the upstream kernel, and frequently through Linaro kernel trees first.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      Would you recommend any of these boards over a Jetson? I’m glad these exist but most of the specs look awful, and I’ve tried rockchip in pine hardware and it sucks.
      - necovek 5y ago
        I don't have much experience with the latest and greatest, and it surely depends on the types of workloads you plan to put on them. Rockchip has a number of differently performing chips (RK3399Pro seems to perform well in comparison with Jetson: https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/15/toybrick-rk3399pro-board-shown-to-outperform-jetson-nano-sbc/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/15/toybrick-rk3399pro-b..., https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2019/12/05/rk3399pro-vs-raspberry-pi-4-vs-jetson-nano-ai-and-deep-learning-capabilities/ https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2019/12/05/rk3399pro-vs-ras...). Pine only recently introduced a RK3399-based board (non-Pro, basically lacking an NPU) version, so you might want to go with them for availability reasons.
klelatti 5y ago
The openness of the hardware designs has little to do with Arm - it's the SoC designers adding closed GPU drivers for example. Nvidia taking over Arm won't solve that issue.

ARM was never good for open hardware designs. It wasn’t better before what you think Nvidia will do either. Look at the state of Linux kernel updates on ARM chips.

turminal 5y ago

You seem to be making a lot of bad faith arguments in this comment section. Why are you defending this deal so ferociously?

GhettoComputers 5y ago
What is in bad faith? It’s assumed that ARM support is good now. I’d like to see more Tegra type chips, an open ARM device with updates Linux drivers from the manufacturer. I’d love to be pointed to a better one if you have it. I think what nvidia does with Linux GPUs is awful, but it is very different how they treat their ARM processors. Please point me to good open ARM processor manufacturers that uploads good Linux updates, I’ll be happy to be wrong that the Jetson really isn’t the best.
- necovek 5y ago
  All the SoCs available from https://www.96boards.org/ https://www.96boards.org/ should have good mainline Linux support. "Good manufacturers" today contribute directly to the upstream kernel, and frequently through Linaro kernel trees first.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Would you recommend any of these boards over a Jetson? I’m glad these exist but most of the specs look awful, and I’ve tried rockchip in pine hardware and it sucks.
    - necovek 5y ago
      I don't have much experience with the latest and greatest, and it surely depends on the types of workloads you plan to put on them. Rockchip has a number of differently performing chips (RK3399Pro seems to perform well in comparison with Jetson: https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/15/toybrick-rk3399pro-board-shown-to-outperform-jetson-nano-sbc/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/15/toybrick-rk3399pro-b..., https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2019/12/05/rk3399pro-vs-raspberry-pi-4-vs-jetson-nano-ai-and-deep-learning-capabilities/ https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2019/12/05/rk3399pro-vs-ras...). Pine only recently introduced a RK3399-based board (non-Pro, basically lacking an NPU) version, so you might want to go with them for availability reasons.

klelatti 5y ago

The openness of the hardware designs has little to do with Arm - it's the SoC designers adding closed GPU drivers for example. Nvidia taking over Arm won't solve that issue.