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I fully disagree; this matter is not a question of an opinion. There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. If people

I fully disagree; this matter is not a question of an opinion. There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. If people like you will join the riot against it, I will join the riots against the rioters. We finally need Ordnung in society and it cannot be that opinionated people "iT sHoUlD bE nOt MaNdAtOrY bUt I aM PrO VaX, iT iS bEcAuSe oF tHe GrUndGeSeTz" or uneducated should disturb it. Yes, I am a legalist on topics where the collective must work together and not have "opinions".

throwaway47292 5y ago
> I fully disagree; this matter is not a question of an opinion. There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. Isn't the the reason of "someone doesn't want it" enough?
- glogla 5y ago
  Is "I don't wanna" ever a good reason to threaten safety and health of others? What if I don't want smoking ban in public places? What if I don't want speed limit on public road or giving right of way? What if run a restaurant and don't want food safety laws?
  - throwaway47292 5y ago
    What about [end to end] encryption? By using it we are threatening the safety and health of others. (e.g. the police is slower at solving crime because they don't have access to all private information)
    - glogla 5y ago
      I don't see million of lives lost due to end-to-end encryption, unlike with second-hand smoke, people driving cars like idiots or COVID. Also police mostly doesn't protect and help people and stop crimes, they arrest people after crimes happened. Police being helpful to anyone is mostly a myth. I mean I generally agree that we should be careful with sweeping "we need X to protect lives" but is global pandemic that killed millions really the case?
      - throwaway47292 5y ago
        But police is total, they would love to prevent crimes before they happen if they could, and would do that at all cost. If only those pesky encryption people stop making this encryption things and we get access to all the data..we will know every crime from domestic abuse to terrorism, we would be even able to predict it, with like 97% accuracy with this 'totally not racist state of the art AI model'. All jokes aside, of course I agree with you. Including on the police point, but things like the oxy epidemic, or the war on drugs, or the promotion of alcohol, makes me question the "protective" incentives of the state.
  - inkblotuniverse 5y ago
    If someone says they want to insert something into your body, "I don't wanna" is a good reason to make it not happen. Penises, babies, food, vaccines...
ospzfmbbzr 5y ago
> absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. what if you are wrong?
xdennis 5y ago
> There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. Human rights are principles which are commonly not given justification. As the US founding fathers said "we hold these truths to be self-evident".

throwaway47292 5y ago

> I fully disagree; this matter is not a question of an opinion. There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. Isn't the the reason of "someone doesn't want it" enough?

glogla 5y ago
Is "I don't wanna" ever a good reason to threaten safety and health of others? What if I don't want smoking ban in public places? What if I don't want speed limit on public road or giving right of way? What if run a restaurant and don't want food safety laws?
- throwaway47292 5y ago
  What about [end to end] encryption? By using it we are threatening the safety and health of others. (e.g. the police is slower at solving crime because they don't have access to all private information)
  - glogla 5y ago
    I don't see million of lives lost due to end-to-end encryption, unlike with second-hand smoke, people driving cars like idiots or COVID. Also police mostly doesn't protect and help people and stop crimes, they arrest people after crimes happened. Police being helpful to anyone is mostly a myth. I mean I generally agree that we should be careful with sweeping "we need X to protect lives" but is global pandemic that killed millions really the case?
    - throwaway47292 5y ago
      But police is total, they would love to prevent crimes before they happen if they could, and would do that at all cost. If only those pesky encryption people stop making this encryption things and we get access to all the data..we will know every crime from domestic abuse to terrorism, we would be even able to predict it, with like 97% accuracy with this 'totally not racist state of the art AI model'. All jokes aside, of course I agree with you. Including on the police point, but things like the oxy epidemic, or the war on drugs, or the promotion of alcohol, makes me question the "protective" incentives of the state.
- inkblotuniverse 5y ago
  If someone says they want to insert something into your body, "I don't wanna" is a good reason to make it not happen. Penises, babies, food, vaccines...

ospzfmbbzr 5y ago

> absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. what if you are wrong?

xdennis 5y ago

> There is absolutely not a single convincing reason why shots should not be mandatory. Human rights are principles which are commonly not given justification. As the US founding fathers said "we hold these truths to be self-evident".