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> Using two or more monitors made it so easy for me to get distracted. I have a desktop with three monitors and a laptop with one, and I don't notice any diffe

> Using two or more monitors made it so easy for me to get distracted. I have a desktop with three monitors and a laptop with one, and I don't notice any difference in distractibility. It's a discipline problem, not a technical one, and so you should solve it on a personal level and not a technical one. I mean, think about it. If you "unlock" the ability to use multiple monitors at once without getting distracted, "it's free real estate" - you have more space to work with, and there's empirical evidence to suggest that that results in increased productivity. Programming involves a lot of consulting documentation and using multiple tools at once - it's very amenable to multiple monitors (as opposed to, say, writing a novel).

girvo 5y ago
> It's a discipline problem, not a technical one, Sure, agreed. > and so you should solve it on a personal level and not a technical one. Why, when a technical one suffices? I've not personally seen much of a productivity increase over two 24"-ish screens and a single 32" 4K screen myself. I don't have the physical desk space for two of those (nor do I think it would be particularly useful for me)
- d110af5ccf 5y ago
  > Why, when a technical one suffices? Because if you're programming then the imposed limitation forcing you to constantly switch between windows almost certainly reduces your productivity. Do you never find yourself jumping back and forth between two or three documentation pages (library API, manpage, language spec, whatever), one or more pieces of example code, and one or more files with code that you're editing? Plus a window for build tooling? I find having that all visible at once in dedicated locations to be incredibly convenient, much more like working on a physical bench top.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > I find having that all visible at once in dedicated locations to be incredibly convenient That’s a reason for seeking out a solution with large enough display area and sufficient resolution. That doesn’t necessarily require multiple monitors.
    - d110af5ccf 5y ago
      I wasn't meaning to differentiate between those two approaches. The original complaint seemed to be that having too many windows visible was leading to distraction. Honestly I found that claim perplexing. If it was only when they were spread across multiple physical monitors (as opposed to a single very large one) that would be even stranger to me. At the end of the day though I admit that it comes down to whatever works for the individual to maximize their effectiveness.
imiric 5y ago
> there's empirical evidence to suggest that that results in increased productivity Can you share this evidence? The thing is that one can only focus on a single monitor at a time. So productivity IME really depends on your windows manager. If I can quickly jump from code to documentation while looking at the same pixels without moving my neck or eyes, that seems like it would be more productive than changing focus to another screen and back. I've been working on a single 1080p laptop display for years now, running Linux with bspwm. I've tried hooking up external displays to this setup, but I haven't found it increased my productivity. Sure, the extra real estate was nice, but shifting focus between monitors detracted from the experience enough that I always went back to a single screen. The comfort of having a portable setup and being able to work from anywhere is also a plus.
- theshrike79 5y ago
  Example of a web developer: Monitor #1: The page Monitor #2: The code Monitor #3: Mail, chat etc. You can drop the third one, but at least two is kinda required. You can't just shove #1 and #2 on a single monitor or the page layout won't match the user's.
  - archseer 5y ago
    Or I can put the browser and the code editor on different workspaces and instantly switch between them with the press of a key.
    - theshrike79 5y ago
      It's not faster than flicking your eyes to the other screen. And you can't type in workspace #1 while looking at workspace #2 :)
      - archseer 5y ago
        Debatable, my sway setup transitions instantly :) Everyone has their preferred workflow. I personally switched back from two monitors to a 15" laptop screen
dragonwriter 5y ago
> I mean, think about it. If you “unlock” the ability to use multiple monitors at once without getting distracted, “it’s free real estate” If the distraction problem isn’t from size but strictly—as was described—from multiple monitors, this isn’t true; multiple monitors are cheaper than single monitors for a given total area and pixel density, but its possible to get one large (ideally curved) monitor that has the real estate of multiple lesser monitors. I found going going from twin 23” 16:9 monitors FHD monitors to a single curved 34” 3440x1440 monitor a reduction in distraction, as well as increase in real estate. Multiple monitors are a distraction, IME, because of discontinuities (all of gaps between them, discontinuity in viewing angle, and, if they aren’t identical devices in pristine condition with identical settings, differences in display quality, whether its color/brightness/contrast/etc.)

girvo 5y ago

> It's a discipline problem, not a technical one, Sure, agreed. > and so you should solve it on a personal level and not a technical one. Why, when a technical one suffices? I've not personally seen much of a productivity increase over two 24"-ish screens and a single 32" 4K screen myself. I don't have the physical desk space for two of those (nor do I think it would be particularly useful for me)

d110af5ccf 5y ago
> Why, when a technical one suffices? Because if you're programming then the imposed limitation forcing you to constantly switch between windows almost certainly reduces your productivity. Do you never find yourself jumping back and forth between two or three documentation pages (library API, manpage, language spec, whatever), one or more pieces of example code, and one or more files with code that you're editing? Plus a window for build tooling? I find having that all visible at once in dedicated locations to be incredibly convenient, much more like working on a physical bench top.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > I find having that all visible at once in dedicated locations to be incredibly convenient That’s a reason for seeking out a solution with large enough display area and sufficient resolution. That doesn’t necessarily require multiple monitors.
  - d110af5ccf 5y ago
    I wasn't meaning to differentiate between those two approaches. The original complaint seemed to be that having too many windows visible was leading to distraction. Honestly I found that claim perplexing. If it was only when they were spread across multiple physical monitors (as opposed to a single very large one) that would be even stranger to me. At the end of the day though I admit that it comes down to whatever works for the individual to maximize their effectiveness.

imiric 5y ago

> there's empirical evidence to suggest that that results in increased productivity Can you share this evidence? The thing is that one can only focus on a single monitor at a time. So productivity IME really depends on your windows manager. If I can quickly jump from code to documentation while looking at the same pixels without moving my neck or eyes, that seems like it would be more productive than changing focus to another screen and back. I've been working on a single 1080p laptop display for years now, running Linux with bspwm. I've tried hooking up external displays to this setup, but I haven't found it increased my productivity. Sure, the extra real estate was nice, but shifting focus between monitors detracted from the experience enough that I always went back to a single screen. The comfort of having a portable setup and being able to work from anywhere is also a plus.

theshrike79 5y ago
Example of a web developer: Monitor #1: The page Monitor #2: The code Monitor #3: Mail, chat etc. You can drop the third one, but at least two is kinda required. You can't just shove #1 and #2 on a single monitor or the page layout won't match the user's.
- archseer 5y ago
  Or I can put the browser and the code editor on different workspaces and instantly switch between them with the press of a key.
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    It's not faster than flicking your eyes to the other screen. And you can't type in workspace #1 while looking at workspace #2 :)
    - archseer 5y ago
      Debatable, my sway setup transitions instantly :) Everyone has their preferred workflow. I personally switched back from two monitors to a 15" laptop screen

dragonwriter 5y ago

> I mean, think about it. If you “unlock” the ability to use multiple monitors at once without getting distracted, “it’s free real estate” If the distraction problem isn’t from size but strictly—as was described—from multiple monitors, this isn’t true; multiple monitors are cheaper than single monitors for a given total area and pixel density, but its possible to get one large (ideally curved) monitor that has the real estate of multiple lesser monitors. I found going going from twin 23” 16:9 monitors FHD monitors to a single curved 34” 3440x1440 monitor a reduction in distraction, as well as increase in real estate. Multiple monitors are a distraction, IME, because of discontinuities (all of gaps between them, discontinuity in viewing angle, and, if they aren’t identical devices in pristine condition with identical settings, differences in display quality, whether its color/brightness/contrast/etc.)