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>It is clear now that the vaccines require 3 doses to be effective Looks like you are really a optimist. I would say, 'It's clear now that the vaccines require
by krater23 5y ago
>It is clear now that the vaccines require 3 doses to be effective
Looks like you are really a optimist. I would say, 'It's clear now that the vaccines require one dose every 5-6 months to be effective against hard covid symptoms'.
Additionally I would not say 'Our governments failed pretty hard in this wave', instead I would say 'Our governments failed hard during the complete pandemic'.
- cblconfederate 5y ago4 months or could be even less. I don't know if we need to debate that vaccines are not the way out and we need heavy stress on therapies
- fabian2k 5y agoWe simply don't know. There are other vaccines that require a delayed third dose, so I don't think it is that unlikely that the boosters could cause a much longer-lived immunity. But it could also be that we'll need yearly boosters, or maybe only for the elderly. I'll accept "Our governments failed especially hard this wave", the problems were more predictable this time and the responses were worse.
- zibzab 5y agoIn the very beginning Germany was doing _extremely_ well, until the protesters showed up. Which is crazy, because Germany managed to do well by good organisation and mass testing, not by lockdowns.
- retromario 5y agoUh, Germany locked down pretty hard, several times. "Good" organisation and mass testing came later. Source: my last two years with three kids at home
- oezi 5y agoThe couple of months of schooling at home wasn't really a hard lockdown when compared with other countries in Europe.
- notjes 5y agoOur governments should have done nothing. People, doctors and clinics would have taken care of this easily. Also, it would be a good community building exercise. But no. Once the Governments stepped in, it was all lockdowns, prohibition and ban of repurpose drugs, soldiers marching through streets, 80 years of ethics preaching tossed out the window in a heart beat.
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- arsome 5y agoWhile I do feel the restrictions have been widely overzealous, to say "People, doctors and clinics would have taken care of this easily." is an absolute falsehood. The failure of the healthcare system to keep up in many places is what caused many restrictions to become a necessity in the first place.
- native_samples 5y agoSorry, but what healthcare system has even tried to keep up? Instead of adding capacity and implementing targeted, fast training programmes they have been firing healthcare workers, and letting the rest get burned out. In most areas of life companies that suddenly face a surge in demand would come up with dozens of creative ways of meeting that demand - instead, governments enforced lockdowns which pushed hospitals deep into the red. Just today there is a story about how the NHS in the UK bought all the private sector health care capacity at the start of the pandemic, and then didn't actually use any of it! https://unherd.com/thepost/the-nhs-covid-beds-that-were-never-used/ https://unherd.com/thepost/the-nhs-covid-beds-that-were-neve... In neighbouring Switzerland the healthcare system did in fact add lots of emergency ICU capacity in March 2020. They spent the next 1.5 years getting rid of it again because it wasn't necessary. Look at their dashboard to see this. Healthcare management is the failure nobody dare name in all this. They've had 18 months to find ways to add capacity, for a disease with no cure and that doesn't even require surgery. Instead they expect all of society to become slaves to the god of hospital beds.
- martneumann 5y ago