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Reasonable question. I don't think we can answer that until most of the population has been vaccinated and we see how "quiet" the disease becomes. I think we

Reasonable question. I don't think we can answer that until most of the population has been vaccinated and we see how "quiet" the disease becomes. I think we are likely to be getting annual vaccinations for years to come. Don't forget that over 200,000 people in the US below age 70 have died. Most of those would not have been considered immunocompromised prior to COVID.

dham 5y ago
And what is their BMI? The US was already dying.
- dev_tty01 5y ago
  Is your point that obese people deserve to die? It has been estimated that only 30% of COVID hospitalizations were related to obesity. Since 30% don't matter by your bookkeeping, do the other 70% count? https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html
  - dham 5y ago
    The number I've kept seeing is 78% of hospitalizations and death were obese.
    - dham 5y ago
      https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughl...
stolenmerch 5y ago
That's actually a good point because the "until most of the population has been vaccinated" is tricky. We don't really know how effective the vaccines are against new variants. Probably better than nothing I'd guess but it also doesn't completely stop transmission. An overly optimistic timeline is 100 days to get a tweaked vaccine for a new variant but we saw that's about how long it took for Delta to move completely through Florida. That plus the possibility of animal reservoirs and many high-compliance mask and lockdown areas getting large spikes anyway leaves me skeptical we can necessarily solve this through the public health policies that have been tried. I just want answers like everyone else and am trying to just learn to be healthy and live with this virus for the rest of my life. Happy to get an annual shot like the flu when/if this becomes endemic and seasonal.
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dham 5y ago

And what is their BMI? The US was already dying.

dev_tty01 5y ago
Is your point that obese people deserve to die? It has been estimated that only 30% of COVID hospitalizations were related to obesity. Since 30% don't matter by your bookkeeping, do the other 70% count? https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html
- dham 5y ago
  The number I've kept seeing is 78% of hospitalizations and death were obese.
  - dham 5y ago
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughl...

stolenmerch 5y ago

That's actually a good point because the "until most of the population has been vaccinated" is tricky. We don't really know how effective the vaccines are against new variants. Probably better than nothing I'd guess but it also doesn't completely stop transmission. An overly optimistic timeline is 100 days to get a tweaked vaccine for a new variant but we saw that's about how long it took for Delta to move completely through Florida. That plus the possibility of animal reservoirs and many high-compliance mask and lockdown areas getting large spikes anyway leaves me skeptical we can necessarily solve this through the public health policies that have been tried. I just want answers like everyone else and am trying to just learn to be healthy and live with this virus for the rest of my life. Happy to get an annual shot like the flu when/if this becomes endemic and seasonal.

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