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Musescore? Wireshark? Transmission? TeXStudio?

friedman23 5y ago
I don't want to be dismissive and those apps are definitely successful and good at what they do but they all look like they were designed in the early 2000s. And I'm pretty sure some were.
- foxfluff 5y ago
  And that's good. Early 2000s had a consistent no-nonsense look made for real work, instead of this fad with every application trying to mimic a phone app or a startup landing page.
  - djxfade 5y ago
    You just show how disconnected this discussion is from reality.
  - friedman23 5y ago
    Good? I wouldn't say it's good, it's completely neutral and unrelated to morality. There is so much emotional and moral language that goes on in every discussion about electron that is just not relevant. People talk about "wasted resources", we aren't talking about plastic bags here. Electron apps aren't bitcoin or fossil fuels. If we were to take a look at things contributing to climate change electron would be irrelevant to the future of our planet. No-nonsense? Why does software have to be no-nonsense? I'd prefer for software to be beautiful.
    - zootboy 5y ago
      I would say that there is an indirect consequence to wasteful resource usage: e-waste. I have a pile of old laptops and cell phones that are still perfectly functional hardware-wise but are basically useless because of the bloat of modern software. Sure, one electron app using hundreds of MB of RAM doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but when you run 6 of them and your machine only has 2 GB of RAM, now more than half your RAM is gone. And for what? A "beautiful" software experience? I'd take a functional and fast program over a "beautiful" one any day, no question.
    - pseudalopex 5y ago
      Good means many things. Pleasing. Useful. Not just virtuous. People complaining about resources mean the limited resources of their computers usually. But it does lead to wasted natural resources by making hardware obsolete faster. And wasted financial resources. And slow and inconsistent interfaces waste cognitive resources. No nonsense means functional. Not ugly.
    - eitland 5y ago
      Keep in mind that there are maybe 100 or more users with electron apps for each cryptocurrency miner.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  The goalpost was > Find me a single successful QT based app. And you've been provided a long list. Please don't move the goalpost.
criddell 5y ago
If you are into 3d printing or design, Fusion 360 is another application you might encounter.

I don't want to be dismissive and those apps are definitely successful and good at what they do but they all look like they were designed in the early 2000s. And I'm pretty sure some were.

foxfluff 5y ago
And that's good. Early 2000s had a consistent no-nonsense look made for real work, instead of this fad with every application trying to mimic a phone app or a startup landing page.
- djxfade 5y ago
  You just show how disconnected this discussion is from reality.
- friedman23 5y ago
  Good? I wouldn't say it's good, it's completely neutral and unrelated to morality. There is so much emotional and moral language that goes on in every discussion about electron that is just not relevant. People talk about "wasted resources", we aren't talking about plastic bags here. Electron apps aren't bitcoin or fossil fuels. If we were to take a look at things contributing to climate change electron would be irrelevant to the future of our planet. No-nonsense? Why does software have to be no-nonsense? I'd prefer for software to be beautiful.
  - zootboy 5y ago
    I would say that there is an indirect consequence to wasteful resource usage: e-waste. I have a pile of old laptops and cell phones that are still perfectly functional hardware-wise but are basically useless because of the bloat of modern software. Sure, one electron app using hundreds of MB of RAM doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but when you run 6 of them and your machine only has 2 GB of RAM, now more than half your RAM is gone. And for what? A "beautiful" software experience? I'd take a functional and fast program over a "beautiful" one any day, no question.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    Good means many things. Pleasing. Useful. Not just virtuous. People complaining about resources mean the limited resources of their computers usually. But it does lead to wasted natural resources by making hardware obsolete faster. And wasted financial resources. And slow and inconsistent interfaces waste cognitive resources. No nonsense means functional. Not ugly.
  - eitland 5y ago
    Keep in mind that there are maybe 100 or more users with electron apps for each cryptocurrency miner.
yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
The goalpost was > Find me a single successful QT based app. And you've been provided a long list. Please don't move the goalpost.

criddell 5y ago

If you are into 3d printing or design, Fusion 360 is another application you might encounter.