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That's not a dark pattern, it's just obnoxious advertising garbage. Which is still bad, but a different thing. FWIW this is also one of my least favorite thing

That's not a dark pattern, it's just obnoxious advertising garbage. Which is still bad, but a different thing. FWIW this is also one of my least favorite things about FF. What the fuck is the point of unobtrusive background auto-updating if you're also going to annoy me with ads every single time you do it?

eropple 5y ago
YMMV, but people talk about these ads firefox is throwing around and I just don't see them. Did I accidentally turn a knob or something and it's just carried with me through years of Firefox Sync'ing?
- technobabbler 5y ago
  Yeah, there are a bunch of ways to turn them off if you're a frequent user. But as a fresh install, you get bombarded with all sorts of useless recommendations and ads. It reminds me of the MSN start page. I see the fresh installs often because I only use Firefox to test occasional browser bugs (it's always Firefox), and then delete it a few weeks later when I no longer need it, then reinstall it later when I need to test it again. Every time it gets more annoying.
- handrous 5y ago
  Most updates at least open and focus a tab about what updated. I'm not sure I've ever cared what it said or needed to know any of the info on those, in years of that happening. Some updates also like to pop up messages or bug me to use crap like Pocket or their revolutionary (LOL) new color theming. Possibly there's a way to stop it, but I only use FF on my Windows gaming machine these days, so it's not a big deal.
godshatter 5y ago
> unobtrusive background auto-updating On that same point, whenever something starts failing to work on firefox (on Windows or Linux), I have come realize that it's probably an "unobtrusive auto-update" that is causing it. Sure enough, closing and restarting firefox gives me a new tab showing what was just "unobtrusively auto-updated", and whatever was broken is now working again. I don't think they know what "unobtrusive" means. Having said that, even with the previous complaints it's still much better than the privacy problems with chrome, at least in my opinion.

eropple 5y ago

YMMV, but people talk about these ads firefox is throwing around and I just don't see them. Did I accidentally turn a knob or something and it's just carried with me through years of Firefox Sync'ing?

technobabbler 5y ago
Yeah, there are a bunch of ways to turn them off if you're a frequent user. But as a fresh install, you get bombarded with all sorts of useless recommendations and ads. It reminds me of the MSN start page. I see the fresh installs often because I only use Firefox to test occasional browser bugs (it's always Firefox), and then delete it a few weeks later when I no longer need it, then reinstall it later when I need to test it again. Every time it gets more annoying.
handrous 5y ago
Most updates at least open and focus a tab about what updated. I'm not sure I've ever cared what it said or needed to know any of the info on those, in years of that happening. Some updates also like to pop up messages or bug me to use crap like Pocket or their revolutionary (LOL) new color theming. Possibly there's a way to stop it, but I only use FF on my Windows gaming machine these days, so it's not a big deal.

godshatter 5y ago

> unobtrusive background auto-updating On that same point, whenever something starts failing to work on firefox (on Windows or Linux), I have come realize that it's probably an "unobtrusive auto-update" that is causing it. Sure enough, closing and restarting firefox gives me a new tab showing what was just "unobtrusively auto-updated", and whatever was broken is now working again. I don't think they know what "unobtrusive" means. Having said that, even with the previous complaints it's still much better than the privacy problems with chrome, at least in my opinion.