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There is not even one Chromium (or Firefox) based browser on iOS because it's not allowed to publish other browser engines on iOS!

ajhurliman 5y ago
I'm using Brave on my iPhone right now.
- speedgoose 5y ago
  It's safari with a skin and some cryptoscams.
  - RankingMember 5y ago
    I really wish the crypto garbage would be dropped from Brave. Makes it feel jumbled and spammy after a fresh install.
- PixyMisa 5y ago
  Well, yes, except no. Brave on iOS is Webkit with a fancy wrapper.
  - ajhurliman 5y ago
    TIL!
  - KarlKemp 5y ago
    A shitty wrapper. The answer to the question “why isn’t there another middleman between content and readers, scamming both?”
freediver 5y ago
To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.
- skrowl 5y ago
  Technically correct, but the Firefox and Chrome listed in the iOS lockdown store are basically just skins on top of WebKit, not actually different web browsers (like they are on Android and other modern operating systems). It sounds like the EU and others may be fixing this soon by forcing Apple to allow other app stores on their devices if they want to continue selling devices in their regions. Presumably Amazon store / Epic store / etc on iOS will carry real Firefox / Chrome.
  - freediver 5y ago
    What do you mean by skin on top of WebKit? WebKit itself just renders the web page. The browser manufacturer has to build an entire browser and decide how to treat user privacy for example, does it have telemetry and what kind, whether to use native controls or not, what browser features to implement like reader mode, how to handle multiple tabs, gestures etc.. Calling that a skin is same as calling Vivaldi a skin of Chromium disregarding the effort made to make it different.
    - lewispollard 5y ago
      Well... Yes, Vivaldi is a skin of Chromium, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of effort going into that skin. The point is that Firefox and Chrome on iOS are not the same browser as Firefox and Chrome on any other platform. For example, if I get a bug report from someone saying they're using Chrome on mobile, if they then say they're using iOS, that's a whole different kettle of fish from any other Chrome bug report I might get. It's going to be much closer to a Safari-related bug than a Chrome one, in a conventional sense.
      - freediver 5y ago
        For it to be a "skin", there would need to be a default "skin" to "reskin". WebKit has no default 'skin' becase it is just a web view. If you make an app with WebKit you have zero browser features, not even an address bar to type an URL into.

ajhurliman 5y ago

I'm using Brave on my iPhone right now.

speedgoose 5y ago
It's safari with a skin and some cryptoscams.
- RankingMember 5y ago
  I really wish the crypto garbage would be dropped from Brave. Makes it feel jumbled and spammy after a fresh install.
PixyMisa 5y ago
Well, yes, except no. Brave on iOS is Webkit with a fancy wrapper.
- ajhurliman 5y ago
  TIL!
- KarlKemp 5y ago
  A shitty wrapper. The answer to the question “why isn’t there another middleman between content and readers, scamming both?”

freediver 5y ago

To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.

skrowl 5y ago
Technically correct, but the Firefox and Chrome listed in the iOS lockdown store are basically just skins on top of WebKit, not actually different web browsers (like they are on Android and other modern operating systems). It sounds like the EU and others may be fixing this soon by forcing Apple to allow other app stores on their devices if they want to continue selling devices in their regions. Presumably Amazon store / Epic store / etc on iOS will carry real Firefox / Chrome.
- freediver 5y ago
  What do you mean by skin on top of WebKit? WebKit itself just renders the web page. The browser manufacturer has to build an entire browser and decide how to treat user privacy for example, does it have telemetry and what kind, whether to use native controls or not, what browser features to implement like reader mode, how to handle multiple tabs, gestures etc.. Calling that a skin is same as calling Vivaldi a skin of Chromium disregarding the effort made to make it different.
  - lewispollard 5y ago
    Well... Yes, Vivaldi is a skin of Chromium, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of effort going into that skin. The point is that Firefox and Chrome on iOS are not the same browser as Firefox and Chrome on any other platform. For example, if I get a bug report from someone saying they're using Chrome on mobile, if they then say they're using iOS, that's a whole different kettle of fish from any other Chrome bug report I might get. It's going to be much closer to a Safari-related bug than a Chrome one, in a conventional sense.
    - freediver 5y ago
      For it to be a "skin", there would need to be a default "skin" to "reskin". WebKit has no default 'skin' becase it is just a web view. If you make an app with WebKit you have zero browser features, not even an address bar to type an URL into.