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I find it funny that Tiktok which is basically equally toxic, but universally praised on HN. Most people don't even know who the founder is for a social media c

I find it funny that Tiktok which is basically equally toxic, but universally praised on HN. Most people don't even know who the founder is for a social media company on-par with Facebook and working on massive scale.

taeric 5y ago
The love of tik tok is odd to me. Seems to be the exact same. And the ads I see on Twitter for it basically amount to sex appeal for a lot of it. Not unlike Hollywood it general show business. For this thread, though, I'm not sure the negative slant is enough to explain it. There is a ton of negative on most every topic.
- thrashh 5y ago
  I don’t know about everyone else but in my eyes, FB is more of a concern because they are much more massive and are more strongly viewed by the voting public. Privacy, algorithmization of feeds, etc. are important to me but I’m much more afraid of opinions being seeded now, which get turned into votes, which determines the people we elect, which in turns determines the type of policies we enact, which then plays out in 5-20 years, when I’m still alive and also the people who come after me. For example, we have to deal with the TSA now because of a series of many unfortunate events that transpired since WW1. You can’t go back and undo certain mistakes. Facebook is unfortunately where a lot of people seem to get their news and that is scary. Primary sources should be people’s news sources.
  - taeric 5y ago
    But... I'm not sure why tik tok can't do the same things? It is almost certainly being used by the same organizations for recruitment and general reach. If not, why not? I get a general fear of social media. And I am not trying to give anyone a pass. I don't see a distinction, though.
voisin 5y ago
I never find my TikTok stream to be negative or divisive. I only find my FB feed to be negative and divisive. That’s the difference in my mind.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  > Through that one powerful signal, TikTok can learn your most hidden interests and emotions, and drive users of any age deep into rabbit holes of content—in which feeds are heavily dominated by videos about a specific topic or theme. It’s an experience that other social-media companies like YouTube have struggled to stop. https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-algorithm-sex-drugs-minors-11631052944 https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-algorithm-sex-drugs-mino... NYTimes would never do a serious negative story about Tiktok because it goes against their political bias. It matches exactly with HN's bias. Here is a praise-worthy Tiktok story that boggles the mind: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/10/arts/TIK-TOK.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/10/arts/TIK-TOK.... It is all partisan and not very objective. I think all social media is terrible for the society.

taeric 5y ago

The love of tik tok is odd to me. Seems to be the exact same. And the ads I see on Twitter for it basically amount to sex appeal for a lot of it. Not unlike Hollywood it general show business. For this thread, though, I'm not sure the negative slant is enough to explain it. There is a ton of negative on most every topic.

thrashh 5y ago
I don’t know about everyone else but in my eyes, FB is more of a concern because they are much more massive and are more strongly viewed by the voting public. Privacy, algorithmization of feeds, etc. are important to me but I’m much more afraid of opinions being seeded now, which get turned into votes, which determines the people we elect, which in turns determines the type of policies we enact, which then plays out in 5-20 years, when I’m still alive and also the people who come after me. For example, we have to deal with the TSA now because of a series of many unfortunate events that transpired since WW1. You can’t go back and undo certain mistakes. Facebook is unfortunately where a lot of people seem to get their news and that is scary. Primary sources should be people’s news sources.
- taeric 5y ago
  But... I'm not sure why tik tok can't do the same things? It is almost certainly being used by the same organizations for recruitment and general reach. If not, why not? I get a general fear of social media. And I am not trying to give anyone a pass. I don't see a distinction, though.

voisin 5y ago

I never find my TikTok stream to be negative or divisive. I only find my FB feed to be negative and divisive. That’s the difference in my mind.

systemvoltage 5y ago
> Through that one powerful signal, TikTok can learn your most hidden interests and emotions, and drive users of any age deep into rabbit holes of content—in which feeds are heavily dominated by videos about a specific topic or theme. It’s an experience that other social-media companies like YouTube have struggled to stop. https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-algorithm-sex-drugs-minors-11631052944 https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-algorithm-sex-drugs-mino... NYTimes would never do a serious negative story about Tiktok because it goes against their political bias. It matches exactly with HN's bias. Here is a praise-worthy Tiktok story that boggles the mind: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/10/arts/TIK-TOK.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/10/arts/TIK-TOK.... It is all partisan and not very objective. I think all social media is terrible for the society.