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both ddg and brave are bing (microsoft) in disguise.

by gbmatt 5y ago

pythux 5y ago
This is not correct. Brave Search owns its own (growing) index and relies on third-parties like Bing for some fraction of the requests. Which is not the same thing as relying fully on Bing or third-parties for results like so many meta-search engines. More detailed answer here: https://search.brave.com/help/independence https://search.brave.com/help/independence Edit: Forgot to say that I work on Brave Search.
- gbmatt 5y ago
  brave 'falls back' to bing. which in my experience is most of the time. in fact, out of all the queries i did a while back, they all seemed to come directly from bing. is there a way to disable the reliance on bing and get pure 'brave only' results? and can you be more specific as to what this fraction is? do you blend at all?
  - BrendanEich 5y ago
    What independence percentage do you see when you click on the gear in upper right of the Brave Search results page? I get 84% personal (browser-based), 87% global (which means we hit Bing only 13% of the time from our server side).
  - pythux 5y ago
    You can check exactly which fraction of the results were fetched from Brave's index vs. third-parties using the "independence score" found in the setting drawers (opening can be done with the cog icon at the top right of any page on search.brave.com). There is there a global and personalized score of independence (respectively aggregated on all user's and for your queries only). Explanation is also found here with screenshots: https://search.brave.com/help/independence https://search.brave.com/help/independence
    - gbmatt 5y ago
      So Brave is still dependent on Google and Bing it seems. Also is this Brave's CEO: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-ei... ? "Brendan Eich's opposition to same-sex marriage cost him his job at Mozilla." "Covid comments get a tech C.E.O. in hot water, again."

both ddg and brave are bing (microsoft) in disguise.

by gbmatt 5y ago

both ddg and brave are bing (microsoft) in disguise.

This is not correct. Brave Search owns its own (growing) index and relies on third-parties like Bing for some fraction of the requests. Which is not the same thing as relying fully on Bing or third-parties for results like so many meta-search engines. More detailed answer here: https://search.brave.com/help/independence https://search.brave.com/help/independence Edit: Forgot to say that I work on Brave Search.

gbmatt 5y ago
brave 'falls back' to bing. which in my experience is most of the time. in fact, out of all the queries i did a while back, they all seemed to come directly from bing. is there a way to disable the reliance on bing and get pure 'brave only' results? and can you be more specific as to what this fraction is? do you blend at all?
- BrendanEich 5y ago
  What independence percentage do you see when you click on the gear in upper right of the Brave Search results page? I get 84% personal (browser-based), 87% global (which means we hit Bing only 13% of the time from our server side).
- pythux 5y ago
  You can check exactly which fraction of the results were fetched from Brave's index vs. third-parties using the "independence score" found in the setting drawers (opening can be done with the cog icon at the top right of any page on search.brave.com). There is there a global and personalized score of independence (respectively aggregated on all user's and for your queries only). Explanation is also found here with screenshots: https://search.brave.com/help/independence https://search.brave.com/help/independence
  - gbmatt 5y ago
    So Brave is still dependent on Google and Bing it seems. Also is this Brave's CEO: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-ei... ? "Brendan Eich's opposition to same-sex marriage cost him his job at Mozilla." "Covid comments get a tech C.E.O. in hot water, again."