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This seems like a series of unfalsifiable claims. Taking evidence linking him to the crime and saying “That is what someone who's setting up a patsy would do” p

This seems like a series of unfalsifiable claims. Taking evidence linking him to the crime and saying “That is what someone who's setting up a patsy would do” pretty much means anything and everything becomes “proof” of the conspiracy.

trhway 5y ago
> evidence linking him to the crime keyword is "evidence". Whenever a sympathetic person/cause becomes a target of IP-address based evidence HN is overflowing with posts that IP-address isn't an evidence :)
- 542354234235 5y ago
  It wasn’t IP-address based evidence. It was a chain of evidence. His Paypal account being used to purchase a VPN. That same VPN being used to access the servers with close-hold, high level credentials. His home IP being associated with the VPN after a power outage at his house. So, we have electric grid evidence that matches up with IP evidence, that matches up with Paypal account evidence. I’m not saying he is guilty or innocent, but lets not misrepresent what is being discussed. I’m saying that responding to chains of evidence by claiming that is what someone setting up a patsy would do, is a unfalsifiable conspiracy theory.
  - DangitBobby 5y ago
    Or the perpetrator could have been one person, no need for it to be a conspiracy. I'm not saying it's probable, and the evidence sounds convincing. But I'm sure there are lots of unfalsifiable things that have actually happened, and frame jobs have happened. Not leaning on the luxury of throwing out uncertainties (or even just offhand devil's advocate like my original comment) doesn't make someone a nutjob. My point was that it coming from his home IP isn't the strongest of evidence. I only mentioned being a "patsy" because there's pretty much no other explanation (besides him lying) for his PayPal buying the VPN and the IP from his home address. If someone got into his home network and he works from home, it's not outside the realm of possibility, or even particularly farfetched, that someone got work and PayPal credentials and acted maliciously towards the company within his network. So please tone it down with the "conspiracy theory" rhetoric.

trhway 5y ago

> evidence linking him to the crime keyword is "evidence". Whenever a sympathetic person/cause becomes a target of IP-address based evidence HN is overflowing with posts that IP-address isn't an evidence :)

542354234235 5y ago
It wasn’t IP-address based evidence. It was a chain of evidence. His Paypal account being used to purchase a VPN. That same VPN being used to access the servers with close-hold, high level credentials. His home IP being associated with the VPN after a power outage at his house. So, we have electric grid evidence that matches up with IP evidence, that matches up with Paypal account evidence. I’m not saying he is guilty or innocent, but lets not misrepresent what is being discussed. I’m saying that responding to chains of evidence by claiming that is what someone setting up a patsy would do, is a unfalsifiable conspiracy theory.
- DangitBobby 5y ago
  Or the perpetrator could have been one person, no need for it to be a conspiracy. I'm not saying it's probable, and the evidence sounds convincing. But I'm sure there are lots of unfalsifiable things that have actually happened, and frame jobs have happened. Not leaning on the luxury of throwing out uncertainties (or even just offhand devil's advocate like my original comment) doesn't make someone a nutjob. My point was that it coming from his home IP isn't the strongest of evidence. I only mentioned being a "patsy" because there's pretty much no other explanation (besides him lying) for his PayPal buying the VPN and the IP from his home address. If someone got into his home network and he works from home, it's not outside the realm of possibility, or even particularly farfetched, that someone got work and PayPal credentials and acted maliciously towards the company within his network. So please tone it down with the "conspiracy theory" rhetoric.