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Ok, so I don’t condone this behavior by Microsoft or Google, but I do use edge at work since we are a Microsoft heavy company with Sharepoint, teams, outlook, a
by twobitshifter 5y ago
Ok, so I don’t condone this behavior by Microsoft or Google, but I do use edge at work since we are a Microsoft heavy company with Sharepoint, teams, outlook, and all that. If we were using Google I’d surely use Chrome, but edge bakes in your Microsoft work profile to the browser and when searching on Bing you can find documents on your internal network easily. I also like the fact that edge supports vertical tabs out of the box.
So here’s my defense of Microsoft taking these steps:
* Google promotes Chrome on YouTube, search, and gmail. Strategically Microsoft needs a message to counter the pop ups on Google sites that are leading to the Chrome download page. It would be much more annoying if you saw this message every time you visited YouTube or Google. The author presents it as the case of someone actively seeking to download Chrome but they could have been lead to the download page from another Google property.
* Many people don’t know that both edge and Chrome use the same engine. When my company mandated edge, people reflexively complained even though they don’t lose anything in terms of speed, extensions or compatibility. For many people knowing that edge has the same browser engine is informative - most non geeks won’t keep up with that.
* if you are working at a Microsoft company, your data is already in the hands of Microsoft and your employer so there’s little privacy to be lost by continuing with edge, but by switching to chrome you bring a 3rd party into the mix.
* you could argue a lesser version of this for all windows users with the integrations that Microsoft has been pushing.
- ben_jones 5y ago"these other people are acting shitty so its totally ok for us to do it" - quick way to identify ass holes. We shouldn't always race to the bottom under the guise of "we have to do it to stay competitive". You don't have to do it, you're just an ass hole. - not talking about gp specifically. Just folks who make those sorts of decisions off such busted premises.
- siproprio 5y agoyeah, but instead of removing those banners and supporting ad-blocking and filtering, microsoft chooses to add more pop-ups and banners. indeed this is the added trust of msft.
- quitit 5y agoI do find it silly - but have never liked how Google promoted their browser on their properties (with factually incorrect speed and efficiency claims - which seem to work since plenty of people here parrot them whenever possible.) I see Google prompting users to download Chrome on Google.com similar behaviour to Microsoft using Windows 95 to push Internet Explorer.
- chaorace 5y ago> Google promotes Chrome on YouTube, search, and gmail. Strategically Microsoft needs a message to counter the pop ups on Google sites that are leading to the Chrome download page You know what I say to that? Tough cookies. Websites and OSes have different responsibilities to their users -- if MS wants to use shady cross-promotion tactics like Google, they should provide web services that justify the annoyance and do their cross-promotion there. Why are we making computers harder to use for the everyman? It's such a grossly short-sighted decision that will only serve to further the divide between an increasingly mobile-oriented consumer class and a primarily desktop-oriented professional class.
- twobitshifter 5y ago> if MS wants to use shady cross-promotion tactics like Google, they should provide web services that justify the annoyance and do their cross-promotion there So to have a successful browser you need to invest to have a visitor count rivaling the largest search engine, video platform, and online mail combined? I think that’s a very large hill to climb even for Microsoft. Your statement leads to only a Chrome hegemony. In terms of sites with Google’s reach, maybe Facebook could make their own browser but that’s about it.