To be honest, I'm not sure there are many people left (certainly here on HN) who haven't already looked at the evidence themselves and come to one conclusion or

To be honest, I'm not sure there are many people left (certainly here on HN) who haven't already looked at the evidence themselves and come to one conclusion or another. Thanks for the discussion though, always interesting to hear someone else's point of view, even more so when neither of us has any different facts to the other.