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Not saying that there aren’t issues, but the fact that billions of people use Windows and don’t routinely have their profiles wiped out with every update points

by orev 5y ago

Not saying that there aren’t issues, but the fact that billions of people use Windows and don’t routinely have their profiles wiped out with every update points to a specific issue with your setup; not a systemic Windows problem.

0x0nyandesu 5y ago
Oy vey. You're objectively incorrect. It's definitely a Microsoft issue. They use the old OS upgrade procedure to do quarterly updates now which means if it finds a Users directory it will rename it to Users.old and make a new one. However if it does two upgrades in a row in the background without telling you the old Users.old will be deleted from your disk. Now all it would take them is a second to check the sizes of both and not remove the one with actual data but ya know that would be a actual useful feature. And before you complain about to me about my "setup"... The scenario I described above is entirely common in IT departments the world over. Now please stop blaming victims and start blaming the people that have the power to change things.
- AshleyGrant 5y ago
  citation needed I just upgraded to Windows 10 21H2 last week, after upgrading to 21H1 a couple weeks ago. I'm looking at my C:\ drive with hidden files viewable and there is no "Users.old" or "Windows.old" folders. This is on Windows 10 Pro using my personal Microsoft account, but the PC is managed through Intune so I can access corporate resources. What I'm saying is, to use your own words, "you're objectively incorrect."
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    Not every windows update generates them but it is still possible to hit two in a row that do when you update old installs of 10 from 2020 that have precached an incremental update. I'm not writing a research paper here. If you want citations you can put on your research hat and find them yourself.
- CJefferson 5y ago
  I've never heard of this -- I've just tried googling and I can't find anything about automatically deleted, or even created, "Users.old" folder (I realise you might not have got the name exactly right). Sometimes individual user directories get moved if they are corrupted, but they still aren't in my experience deleted.
misnome 5y ago
For large proportions of people a misbehaving operating system is just "how computers work" and it would be like complaining that water is wet.
- orev 5y ago
  There’s a huge difference between “I need to reboot to fix some wonky thing” and “all my data gets deleted every time there’s a Windows update”. People would very much notice the latter as being a problem.

by orev 5y ago

0x0nyandesu 5y ago

Oy vey. You're objectively incorrect. It's definitely a Microsoft issue. They use the old OS upgrade procedure to do quarterly updates now which means if it finds a Users directory it will rename it to Users.old and make a new one. However if it does two upgrades in a row in the background without telling you the old Users.old will be deleted from your disk. Now all it would take them is a second to check the sizes of both and not remove the one with actual data but ya know that would be a actual useful feature. And before you complain about to me about my "setup"... The scenario I described above is entirely common in IT departments the world over. Now please stop blaming victims and start blaming the people that have the power to change things.

AshleyGrant 5y ago
citation needed I just upgraded to Windows 10 21H2 last week, after upgrading to 21H1 a couple weeks ago. I'm looking at my C:\ drive with hidden files viewable and there is no "Users.old" or "Windows.old" folders. This is on Windows 10 Pro using my personal Microsoft account, but the PC is managed through Intune so I can access corporate resources. What I'm saying is, to use your own words, "you're objectively incorrect."
- 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
  Not every windows update generates them but it is still possible to hit two in a row that do when you update old installs of 10 from 2020 that have precached an incremental update. I'm not writing a research paper here. If you want citations you can put on your research hat and find them yourself.
CJefferson 5y ago
I've never heard of this -- I've just tried googling and I can't find anything about automatically deleted, or even created, "Users.old" folder (I realise you might not have got the name exactly right). Sometimes individual user directories get moved if they are corrupted, but they still aren't in my experience deleted.

misnome 5y ago

For large proportions of people a misbehaving operating system is just "how computers work" and it would be like complaining that water is wet.

orev 5y ago
There’s a huge difference between “I need to reboot to fix some wonky thing” and “all my data gets deleted every time there’s a Windows update”. People would very much notice the latter as being a problem.