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> Both of the men Rittenhouse killed were unarmed. All of the people Rittenhouse shot at were armed. Multiple witnesses including the state's testified to the
by baryphonic 5y ago
> Both of the men Rittenhouse killed were unarmed.
All of the people Rittenhouse shot at were armed. Multiple witnesses including the state's testified to the fact that Rosenbaum, the pedophile screaming the N-word repeatedly that night (and he was white in case you're wondering) who was shot first, was lunging and trying to grab the gun. A person becomes armed when he attempts to take another person's weapon.
The second man shot at, "jump kick man," was using his feet as weapons when he was shot at. When we use even our bodies in a violent manner, they become weapons.
The second man shot was in the act of wielding his skateboard as a weapon, and also grabbed the gun. He became armed when he started using the skateboard as a weapon, and further when he grabbed the gun.
The final person shot was literally armed with an illegally-possessed handgun. He was not shot until he approached Rittenhouse and pointed it at Rittenhouse's head.
All armed.
> Whether he had a legal right to be carrying the gun or not is a little more contentious. Although his possession of the gun was in line with the letter of the law, it seems likely from the wording that the exception was intended to apply to minors hunting and is poorly written, rather than an intentional decision to allow 17 year olds to carry AR-15s. Poorly worded laws are read in favour of the defence, which is why the gun charge was dropped. He likely would not have been allowed to buy or possess the gun in his home state.
It seems to me that banning sixteen and seventeen year olds from possessing sawed-off shotguns and pistols makes sense outside of a hunting context. I personally didn't find the law particularly strangely worded, unless we're going in with the expectation that it will nail a kid.
FWIW, Rittenhouse testified on the stand that he had asked police for advice before his friend bought the rifle, and was told their arrangement complied with the law. That may not be a real legal defense, but I mean, sheesh. Hard to fault anyone who takes pains to comply with the law.
> But whatever the legality, I don't think it's right that a guy can go tooled up to another city, kill two unarmed people, and pose for celebratory photos with white supremacists afterwards.
His father and grandmother live in Kenosha. He had a job there. He had in fact been photographed cleaning graffiti from the walls of a Kenosha high school earlier that same day. It was "his city" as much as anyone else's.
- caeril 5y ago> (and he was white in case you're wondering) What's been most shocking about the media coverage over this matter, and the incessant, unfounded claims of "white supremacy" on the part of Mr. Rittenhouse, is that without actually saying it, the media has strongly implied to the average normie that Kyle killed black people. For one example, see https://twitter.com/sarahbeth345/status/1458593872557133825 https://twitter.com/sarahbeth345/status/1458593872557133825
- d1sxeyes 5y agoHm. I wouldn't say that the claims are unfounded. The 'Kenosha Guard' were formed in response to the George Floyd protests, so race can't be excluded here as a contributing factor in the formation of the militia. There is also evidence that the Boogaloo Boys formed at least part of the militia, who can be generously described as 'white-supremacist adjacent'. On the day of his 'not guilty' plea, he met with Proud Boys in a bar, and was caught displaying the 'OK' symbol on camera.[0] I don't have anything nicer to say about the Proud Boys than the Boogaloo Boys. This wasn't admissible at trial, but is nevertheless true, and leaves little doubt in my mind that Rittenhouse is a white supremacist, or at least associates with white supremacists. I think it's important to remember that these events didn't occur in a vaccuum, and the backdrop of the protests/riots/unrest/whatever you want to call it is one of the shooting of a Black man in questionable circumstances, so which 'side' you are on is important. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/TV6WES5ETRBCVKMO4TIQIJKJ7E.png&w=916 https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://...
- Dakizhu 5y agoThe meeting was arranged by Lin Wood at the time and he was promptly fired afterward. FYI the 'ok' sign is also used by lots of 'normal' conservatives and even non conservatives. The symbology was invented by 4chan first along with many other campaigns to turn widely used symbols (Pepe) into something associated with nazis. A lot of people who aren't affiliated in any way with nazis still continue to use it because of the original trolling motive and/or they don't know of the association. Source: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhou...
- d1sxeyes 5y agoYou might be right. I personally think he knew exactly what he was doing.