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Not every law is a restriction of freedom. My freedom ends where yours begins. Sadly, some people are more than happy to force their worldview on others, "for
by throwaway248329 5y ago
Not every law is a restriction of freedom. My freedom ends where yours begins.
Sadly, some people are more than happy to force their worldview on others, "for their own sake".
- root_axis 5y agoWhat is an example of a law that does not restrict freedom?
- throwaway248329 5y agoA law that bans murder. There is no freedom to murder so it does not restrict any freedom.
- ben_w 5y agoWhere there is no law against killing people, people are free to do that. And when people who want to kill people and have been free to kill people get told they are no longer allowed to, they have also been unhappy about it.
- throwaway248329 5y agoNo, there is no freedom to murder people no matter where you are. My freedom ends where yours begins.
- bildung 5y agoThe same is true for selling poisonous baby milk or wine.
- throwaway248329 5y agoIf I want to sell a poisonous wine to an adult that understands the risks and still wants it, then it's none of your business.
- malermeister 5y agoSo if you want to kill a mentally ill person with their consent, that's also none of our business? Like was this guy [1] right in what he did and his punishment was unfair? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
- rvz 5y agoWell that debate escalated very quickly.
- ben_w 5y agoYou appear to be using the word “freedom” to refer to something other than the ability to act without constraint. The phrase “My freedom ends where yours begins” (and its many variations and false attributions to various famous figures) is one of moral considerations and generally used to argue for what the world ought to be, but it is not and never has been a fundamental — i.e. even when the law falls silent — truth of the reality we actually live in.
- root_axis 5y agoMurder means to unlawfully kill a person. Without laws against killing there is no such thing as murder.
- throwaway248329 5y agoSo if the laws allow murdering people you would think that you have the freedom to murder people? Or that such laws are psychopathic and don't respect anyone's freedoms at all?
- root_axis 5y agoLaws "cannot allow murder"; murder is illegal by definition. For example, if two hypothetical killings take place under identical circumstances but under two different legal jurisdictions, the killing could be considered murder in one place but justified in another. This happens all the time, see Florida's stand your ground laws for instance.