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> You can't find many things that Russian government deems inappropriate in Yandex What are those things that Yandex can't find? It seems to me it shows pretty

> You can't find many things that Russian government deems inappropriate in Yandex What are those things that Yandex can't find? It seems to me it shows pretty relevant results for "putin's golden toilet" [1], "putin's blasting houses" with US State Department / Soros funded web-site as one of the top results [2]. A query with "navalny's statement" shows both his twitter and his web-site on the first page. When comparing to google, "gab" in yandex shows the web-site's link as the first result. Google doesn't show it at all, there is only CNN, wikipedia, some woke dictionaries all telling you gab is not something you should search. So, who's got totalitarian system with censorship after all? [1]: https://yandex.com/search/?text=%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B7+%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&lr=10309 https://yandex.com/search/?text=%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%... [2]: https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD+%D0%B2%D0%B7%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%82+%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0&lr=10309 https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B... [3]: https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%8F%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE&lr=10309 https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%8F%D0%B2%D0%B...

terafo 5y ago
They are mandated to remove everything that Roskomnadzor blocks from search results. That happened to Smart Voting in September, for example. And it's extremely easy for them to block any website they want.
- janeroe 5y ago
  Thanks God neither Google nor Apple complied because "it's extremely [difficult] for them to" do so. Oh, wait, they did comply, too. Different jurisdiction, no HQs in Russia and yet both succumbed to the authoritarian regime. Not a good argument in the context of comparing the two search engines.
sufficer 5y ago
I googled gab and it was the first result. Did your machine get pwned?
- janeroe 5y ago
  Where are you from? I checked from American IP and it's indeed the first result. Not the case with Asian IP.
  - fomine3 5y ago
    Gab.com is first from Asian IP, but locale should be hl=en.
scarmig 5y ago
When I search for Gab on Google, it comes up as the first result.
- janeroe 5y ago
  What does "us election fraud" shows, any web-sites that are not in line with "the correct" narrative? For me google shows one side, yandex both of them. Now, "голосование на пеньках" (voting on stomps) is a mockery of Putin's constitution referendum by opposition. When searching this phrase in Google the front page is again Putin controlled media: tass, rbc, kommersant, rg. Yandex apart from the aforementioned web-sites has US State Department / Soros funded meduza and svoboda.org, liberal (in American sense) tjournal, Deutsche Welle. It seems Yandex gives preference to the most relevant sites when Google decides what's good ("credible") for you. [1]: https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%85 https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%8...
  - fault1 5y ago
    > when Google decides what's good ("credible") for you. One of the problems is that black hat SEOs (among other people) have huge economic incentives to spread misinformation, including about the election. This is of course, an eternal cat and mouse game. This is not new, I remember when gmail started filtering chain letter scams more than a decade ago.
    - janeroe 5y ago
      Good for them. The thing is I want a search engine, not a catalogue of web-sites approved by the ministry of truth.
  - scarmig 5y ago
    I'm just checking a claim I thought was implausible and also easily verifiable. It'd be weird for Google to bury bad think only for non-American IP addresses but allow it for Americans if it was on some woke crusade for the benefit of the US government. Now, I'm not sure why it's removed from your results, but my point is that what you cited as a piece of evidence for malign intent on Google's part isn't actually supporting evidence.

terafo 5y ago

They are mandated to remove everything that Roskomnadzor blocks from search results. That happened to Smart Voting in September, for example. And it's extremely easy for them to block any website they want.

janeroe 5y ago
Thanks God neither Google nor Apple complied because "it's extremely [difficult] for them to" do so. Oh, wait, they did comply, too. Different jurisdiction, no HQs in Russia and yet both succumbed to the authoritarian regime. Not a good argument in the context of comparing the two search engines.

sufficer 5y ago

I googled gab and it was the first result. Did your machine get pwned?

janeroe 5y ago
Where are you from? I checked from American IP and it's indeed the first result. Not the case with Asian IP.
- fomine3 5y ago
  Gab.com is first from Asian IP, but locale should be hl=en.

scarmig 5y ago

When I search for Gab on Google, it comes up as the first result.

janeroe 5y ago
What does "us election fraud" shows, any web-sites that are not in line with "the correct" narrative? For me google shows one side, yandex both of them. Now, "голосование на пеньках" (voting on stomps) is a mockery of Putin's constitution referendum by opposition. When searching this phrase in Google the front page is again Putin controlled media: tass, rbc, kommersant, rg. Yandex apart from the aforementioned web-sites has US State Department / Soros funded meduza and svoboda.org, liberal (in American sense) tjournal, Deutsche Welle. It seems Yandex gives preference to the most relevant sites when Google decides what's good ("credible") for you. [1]: https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%85 https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%8...
- fault1 5y ago
  > when Google decides what's good ("credible") for you. One of the problems is that black hat SEOs (among other people) have huge economic incentives to spread misinformation, including about the election. This is of course, an eternal cat and mouse game. This is not new, I remember when gmail started filtering chain letter scams more than a decade ago.
  - janeroe 5y ago
    Good for them. The thing is I want a search engine, not a catalogue of web-sites approved by the ministry of truth.
- scarmig 5y ago
  I'm just checking a claim I thought was implausible and also easily verifiable. It'd be weird for Google to bury bad think only for non-American IP addresses but allow it for Americans if it was on some woke crusade for the benefit of the US government. Now, I'm not sure why it's removed from your results, but my point is that what you cited as a piece of evidence for malign intent on Google's part isn't actually supporting evidence.