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The social credit score (as most Westerners think of it) is a complete myth. One of the top American experts on Chinese law, at Yale university, calls most Wes
by DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
The social credit score (as most Westerners think of it) is a complete myth.
One of the top American experts on Chinese law, at Yale university, calls most Western reporting on the subject "social credit fan fiction."
There are various"social credit" systems in China, but the average person does not interact with them. They mostly exist to regulate businesses.
Individuals in China do not have a social credit score, and basically the only way to actually fall afoul of any social credit system is to break an existing law, and then fail to comply with a court order. Then, you might end up being barred from flying or buying a train ticket. But the idea that there's a number attached to every Chinese person that is constantly going up or down based on how they post online is just complete fiction.
As for "moral relativism," we really should not get into a petty, nationalist match about which country is worse than the other. The US has its own fair share of (arguably way worse) atrocities to answer for (see the entire Middle East over the last 20 years).
- petre 5y ago> you might end up being barred from flying or buying a train ticket I see. So essentially like an international terrorist on the US no fly list, just for regular people. Like maybe exposing a government official for sexual harassement, getting charged with spreading rumors and failing to comply with being dissapeared?
- DiogenesKynikos 5y ago> just for regular people No, for people who, for example, are convicted of a crime by a court of law and ordered to pay a fine, but refuse to do so. The system is actually much more mundane than people in the West imagine, and it affects a tiny sliver of the population (many times smaller than the fraction of people in the US who are in prison, for example). And again, the social credit systems in China are mainly about business regulation. If a business fails one type of inspection with one government agency, that information will be shared with other government agencies, which will then scrutinize that business more carefully. The idea was to focus regulatory scrutiny on companies that have a pattern of violations, and to lessen the regulatory burden on other companies.
- necovek 5y agoThis interpretation seems to be extremely in bad faith. Instead, to me it sounds like a fugitive from law that now can't travel easily.