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That's ridiculous, a prolific thief is still just a thief.

by lookalike74 5y ago

majkinetor 5y ago
His crime is that he stole from the dead ? So much passion for such trivia...
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  I think there is a bit of a difference between taking artifacts and digging up corpses and taking parts of them.
  - jamal-kumar 5y ago
    Incredible people have to be reminded of this still.
    - majkinetor 5y ago
      What is incredible is that people confuse dead nature with the living one. Besides, five minutes ago you didn't even know there is something deep in the ground and now you construct all kind of weird GenZ shenanigan around digging it up... Obligatory, I guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBtKNzoKZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBtKNzoKZ4
  - majkinetor 5y ago
    What difference after so many years? What is this, supernatural episode? Should we stop burning fossil fuel because technically, you are burning dead animals and maybe even some people of ancient civilization ?
    - wonderwonder 5y ago
      Whats the limit on how long until we can dig people up? Is it ok if someone digs up a corpse a week after the funeral? a year? a decade? Who gets to decide and if a culture believes that remains must be left untouched forever, who gets to decide that that cultures beliefs are irrelevant and overrule them if that culture is still around?
      - majkinetor 5y ago
        It can reasonably be assumed that corpses on dedicated locations like cemetery should be protected while there are direct live connections (kids, partners). Lets say 100 years at most although it is probably overkill. However, even today if you don't pay a parcel rent, cemetery can dig the corpse up and ditch it. Entire first generation of cryogenic people were lost due to this problem (grandkid didn't want to pay for grandpa for eternity in cryogenic coffin). So with all this in mind, it makes sense that after your are legally dead and lets say 1 year passed (to allow for the "return from the dead" cases we know happen), you should be considered dead nature. After that time, it becomes a matter of your relationship with the cemetery or other company and contract you have with them. If their "SLA" is that they will "own" it for you, then digging it up can be considered legally as a theft. If you have culture that wants to keep dead forever, then that culture will find ways to manage it the official way I guess along with the laws on theft, and wont leave it to the little dwarfs to manage. You must keep in mind tho that each day number of dead people is rising and number of alive stays close to the same. Any civilization wanting to keep dead forever will have a lot of problems with this idea, unless it can find a way to teleport them to different dead dimension unrelated to us. Such advanced civilization will sure have much better way to preserve uniqness of each individual.
      - oauea 5y ago
        If your culture is that your corpse must remain untouched, and you drop dead in the middle of a mall, no one is going to leave the corpse there.

That's ridiculous, a prolific thief is still just a thief.

majkinetor 5y ago

His crime is that he stole from the dead ? So much passion for such trivia...

wonderwonder 5y ago
I think there is a bit of a difference between taking artifacts and digging up corpses and taking parts of them.
- jamal-kumar 5y ago
  Incredible people have to be reminded of this still.
  - majkinetor 5y ago
    What is incredible is that people confuse dead nature with the living one. Besides, five minutes ago you didn't even know there is something deep in the ground and now you construct all kind of weird GenZ shenanigan around digging it up... Obligatory, I guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBtKNzoKZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBtKNzoKZ4
- majkinetor 5y ago
  What difference after so many years? What is this, supernatural episode? Should we stop burning fossil fuel because technically, you are burning dead animals and maybe even some people of ancient civilization ?
  - wonderwonder 5y ago
    Whats the limit on how long until we can dig people up? Is it ok if someone digs up a corpse a week after the funeral? a year? a decade? Who gets to decide and if a culture believes that remains must be left untouched forever, who gets to decide that that cultures beliefs are irrelevant and overrule them if that culture is still around?
    - majkinetor 5y ago
      It can reasonably be assumed that corpses on dedicated locations like cemetery should be protected while there are direct live connections (kids, partners). Lets say 100 years at most although it is probably overkill. However, even today if you don't pay a parcel rent, cemetery can dig the corpse up and ditch it. Entire first generation of cryogenic people were lost due to this problem (grandkid didn't want to pay for grandpa for eternity in cryogenic coffin). So with all this in mind, it makes sense that after your are legally dead and lets say 1 year passed (to allow for the "return from the dead" cases we know happen), you should be considered dead nature. After that time, it becomes a matter of your relationship with the cemetery or other company and contract you have with them. If their "SLA" is that they will "own" it for you, then digging it up can be considered legally as a theft. If you have culture that wants to keep dead forever, then that culture will find ways to manage it the official way I guess along with the laws on theft, and wont leave it to the little dwarfs to manage. You must keep in mind tho that each day number of dead people is rising and number of alive stays close to the same. Any civilization wanting to keep dead forever will have a lot of problems with this idea, unless it can find a way to teleport them to different dead dimension unrelated to us. Such advanced civilization will sure have much better way to preserve uniqness of each individual.
    - oauea 5y ago
      If your culture is that your corpse must remain untouched, and you drop dead in the middle of a mall, no one is going to leave the corpse there.