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The difference is that that the WTA actually has leverage on China because China loses legitimacy in sports from this decision. No Chinese woman can ever be the

by Aunche 5y ago

The difference is that that the WTA actually has leverage on China because China loses legitimacy in sports from this decision. No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. The NBA and John Cena actually have negative leverage on China. Both are purely American exports, so getting them banned in China only serves to widen the trade imbalance. China would love to find an excuse to do so.

ErikVandeWater 5y ago
The NBA has orders of magnitude more leverage than women's tennis. There's a serious number of NBA fans in China who would be pissed if it were banned. > No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100.
- Aunche 5y ago
  It's a good thing you can pirate the NBA or use a VPN. Less committed fans will simply accept that China just censor the NBA for telling "lies." You can't pirate your way into hosting a international tournament.
  - hker 5y ago
    Would Blizzard and the IOC be closer to the WTA here, in that their are also hosting tournaments and events?
    - Aunche 5y ago
      That's closer, but I don't think that's quite the same. Esports seems to serve more so as marketing for videogames. The CCP is trying to discourage its population from playing videogames, so they doubt that they care if they lose out on American ones. Also, esports don't have nearly the prestige of physical sports at the moment, though that could change in the future.
- rkk3 5y ago
  > China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100. bizarre thing to say given the story is literally about a former WTA #1 Chinese female doubles tennis player.
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
    Go ahead and fact check me. I am referring to single's (far more popular).
hker 5y ago
In terms of leverage on China, I think Apple has a lot, since they employ a lot in China. Although the next question is, can they afford (of the order of) 1/3 of their revenue?
- Jansen312 5y ago
  This is where we need to make Apple remember 2/3 can evaporate and make them worst off then losing 1/3. Yeah 2/3 won't go off completely. But so is that 1/3. The whole point is that as international community we need to vote properly with our wallets to make them behave. Apple cancelled? Now that is a trend that Steve wouldn't even thought of back then.

by Aunche 5y ago

ErikVandeWater 5y ago

The NBA has orders of magnitude more leverage than women's tennis. There's a serious number of NBA fans in China who would be pissed if it were banned. > No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100.

Aunche 5y ago
It's a good thing you can pirate the NBA or use a VPN. Less committed fans will simply accept that China just censor the NBA for telling "lies." You can't pirate your way into hosting a international tournament.
- hker 5y ago
  Would Blizzard and the IOC be closer to the WTA here, in that their are also hosting tournaments and events?
  - Aunche 5y ago
    That's closer, but I don't think that's quite the same. Esports seems to serve more so as marketing for videogames. The CCP is trying to discourage its population from playing videogames, so they doubt that they care if they lose out on American ones. Also, esports don't have nearly the prestige of physical sports at the moment, though that could change in the future.
rkk3 5y ago
> China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100. bizarre thing to say given the story is literally about a former WTA #1 Chinese female doubles tennis player.
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  Go ahead and fact check me. I am referring to single's (far more popular).

hker 5y ago

In terms of leverage on China, I think Apple has a lot, since they employ a lot in China. Although the next question is, can they afford (of the order of) 1/3 of their revenue?

Jansen312 5y ago
This is where we need to make Apple remember 2/3 can evaporate and make them worst off then losing 1/3. Yeah 2/3 won't go off completely. But so is that 1/3. The whole point is that as international community we need to vote properly with our wallets to make them behave. Apple cancelled? Now that is a trend that Steve wouldn't even thought of back then.