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But Google moderates search results by definition. As in, it's not like there's an objective external measure of what the results for a given search term should
by Vinnl 5y ago
But Google moderates search results by definition. As in, it's not like there's an objective external measure of what the results for a given search term should look like - it's all Google that determines what to show you in what order.
- vadfa 5y agoThere is a difference between having a set of rules and doing ad hoc moderation.
- shadowgovt 5y agoThe set of rules includes "results that are illegal to divulge in a jurisdiction will not be shown."
- shkkmo 5y agoSince Google is doing this voluntarily, many of the blocked results were legal to divulge but Google is choosing not to, which does make it ad hoc.
- axutio 5y agoThis just becomes a question of pragmatism at that point - Google lacks the capacity to determine which of the blocked results are legal versus are not without incurring cost, so the most realistic approach is to recognize that a majority of results from that domain are illegal and block the domain. This is just the simplest way to enforce a particular rule in a particular case that can't otherwise be cheaply codified programatically.
- shkkmo 5y agoYet Google doesn't generally block most content that is illegal in one jurisdiction in all others where it is not illegal. If Google is deciding to do that just with TPB, then that is indeed an adhoc decision.
- 8note 5y agoSo writing a rule "don't show results from domains on list X" makes it ad hoc ad not a rule? I don't think there's sombody manually removing each result from search queries by hand. That wouldnt meet latency constraints
- jtbayly 5y agoFirst, there’s a difference between moderation by prioritization vs blacklisting. Second, if I search for “the Pirate Bay website” I’m pretty sure there’s an objective result that should be there at the top.
- willis936 5y agoI don't see a difference between not listing something and listing it below an infinite number of null results. 1 / ∞ = 0
- sdenton4 5y agoThere's barely a difference between delisting and listing as the eleventh result...
- duduer8fttg 5y agoIs this not a false dichotomy? Unless you are purposely using deprioritization as a substitute for blacklisting it would stand to reason that results 'moderated' to the bottom of the a priority list ended up there because they actually aren't considered useful/relevant to the query. So unless you are moderating in bad faith blacklisting is clearly different because it removes the users ability to find the content at all and it wholly ignores the intent of their search.
- willis936 5y agoHow is it not the true dichotomy? Delisting is the same as prioritizing noise over good hits.
- marcus_holmes 5y agoif "the pirate bay website" is written in lots of documents discussing the legality of the website, but the actual website is called "https://www.piratebay.org https://www.piratebay.org" and doesn't contain the words "the pirate bay website" at all, then by any objective measure that site should be way down the list of any search results for "the pirate bay website".