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They are going to lose 1/3 of revenue. Now NBA and Xohn Xhina on the other hand.

by shmde 5y ago

deltaci 5y ago
It's revenue already lost. No tournament was happening since October 2020 already. Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/07/23/wta-to-cancel-all-events-in-china-for-remainder-of-2020-including-tour-finals/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/07/23/wta-to-c...
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  Then when China eases Covid restrictions they'll quietly add China back to the schedule like nothing happened.
  - necovek 5y ago
    Unfortunately, "China" holds grudges (in quotes, because I suspect it might not even be the government, but different officials wanting to appear as good citizens to the government, and definitely not Chinese people), so it won't be that easy: Simon will likely need to step down (though he's kinda being diplomatic in only "wanting answers", not putting particular blame on anyone, but he's still pretty adamant). Witness NBA-Houston Rockets case which caused Houston Rockets games to be blacked out for 15 months even though Morey moved on from Houston late in 2020 after tweeting in support of Hong Kong protests early in the year. What did CCTV do? Ban 76ers NBA games who are the current employer for Morey.
Aunche 5y ago
The difference is that that the WTA actually has leverage on China because China loses legitimacy in sports from this decision. No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. The NBA and John Cena actually have negative leverage on China. Both are purely American exports, so getting them banned in China only serves to widen the trade imbalance. China would love to find an excuse to do so.
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  The NBA has orders of magnitude more leverage than women's tennis. There's a serious number of NBA fans in China who would be pissed if it were banned. > No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100.
  - Aunche 5y ago
    It's a good thing you can pirate the NBA or use a VPN. Less committed fans will simply accept that China just censor the NBA for telling "lies." You can't pirate your way into hosting a international tournament.
    - hker 5y ago
      Would Blizzard and the IOC be closer to the WTA here, in that their are also hosting tournaments and events?
      - Aunche 5y ago
        That's closer, but I don't think that's quite the same. Esports seems to serve more so as marketing for videogames. The CCP is trying to discourage its population from playing videogames, so they doubt that they care if they lose out on American ones. Also, esports don't have nearly the prestige of physical sports at the moment, though that could change in the future.
  - rkk3 5y ago
    > China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100. bizarre thing to say given the story is literally about a former WTA #1 Chinese female doubles tennis player.
    - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
skinkestek 5y ago
I'm not interested in tennis at all but I admit feeling an urge to find some way to support tennis. It would be great if the internet could somehow make this a fantastic decision for WTA. Ideas?
- ekanes 5y ago
  Absolutely. I’m in. I am hopeful viewership goes up.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    Maybe some artistic soul could make a great meme with NBA stars and Winnie the Pooh on one side and WTA on the other and the text: TIL: tennis balls are bigger than basket balls. I know there are quite a few here who also hang on other parts of the internet and who knows how to generate memes. Anyone up for the challenge?

They are going to lose 1/3 of revenue. Now NBA and Xohn Xhina on the other hand.

by shmde 5y ago

They are going to lose 1/3 of revenue. Now NBA and Xohn Xhina on the other hand.

It's revenue already lost. No tournament was happening since October 2020 already. Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/07/23/wta-to-cancel-all-events-in-china-for-remainder-of-2020-including-tour-finals/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/07/23/wta-to-c...

ErikVandeWater 5y ago
Then when China eases Covid restrictions they'll quietly add China back to the schedule like nothing happened.
- necovek 5y ago
  Unfortunately, "China" holds grudges (in quotes, because I suspect it might not even be the government, but different officials wanting to appear as good citizens to the government, and definitely not Chinese people), so it won't be that easy: Simon will likely need to step down (though he's kinda being diplomatic in only "wanting answers", not putting particular blame on anyone, but he's still pretty adamant). Witness NBA-Houston Rockets case which caused Houston Rockets games to be blacked out for 15 months even though Morey moved on from Houston late in 2020 after tweeting in support of Hong Kong protests early in the year. What did CCTV do? Ban 76ers NBA games who are the current employer for Morey.

Aunche 5y ago

The difference is that that the WTA actually has leverage on China because China loses legitimacy in sports from this decision. No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. The NBA and John Cena actually have negative leverage on China. Both are purely American exports, so getting them banned in China only serves to widen the trade imbalance. China would love to find an excuse to do so.

ErikVandeWater 5y ago
The NBA has orders of magnitude more leverage than women's tennis. There's a serious number of NBA fans in China who would be pissed if it were banned. > No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100.
- Aunche 5y ago
  It's a good thing you can pirate the NBA or use a VPN. Less committed fans will simply accept that China just censor the NBA for telling "lies." You can't pirate your way into hosting a international tournament.
  - hker 5y ago
    Would Blizzard and the IOC be closer to the WTA here, in that their are also hosting tournaments and events?
    - Aunche 5y ago
      That's closer, but I don't think that's quite the same. Esports seems to serve more so as marketing for videogames. The CCP is trying to discourage its population from playing videogames, so they doubt that they care if they lose out on American ones. Also, esports don't have nearly the prestige of physical sports at the moment, though that could change in the future.
- rkk3 5y ago
  > China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100. bizarre thing to say given the story is literally about a former WTA #1 Chinese female doubles tennis player.
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago

skinkestek 5y ago

I'm not interested in tennis at all but I admit feeling an urge to find some way to support tennis. It would be great if the internet could somehow make this a fantastic decision for WTA. Ideas?

ekanes 5y ago
Absolutely. I’m in. I am hopeful viewership goes up.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  Maybe some artistic soul could make a great meme with NBA stars and Winnie the Pooh on one side and WTA on the other and the text: TIL: tennis balls are bigger than basket balls. I know there are quite a few here who also hang on other parts of the internet and who knows how to generate memes. Anyone up for the challenge?