> It may not be the most entertaining, but the proposal is incoherent on many levels, so its really the only possible response. I didn't mean entertaining, exa

> It may not be the most entertaining, but the proposal is incoherent on many levels, so its really the only possible response. I didn't mean entertaining, exactly, so much as that it seemed unlikely to convince anyone who held the opposite view since it (shallowly) seemed easily worked around. It was an important part of the more interesting argument, which you've elaborated on further and which this morning I would have expected to convince - "it is probably harder than the thing we need, and also still relies on the thing we need" seems pretty conclusive if accurate.