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Most mass shootings in the US are gang related using illegally-owned pistols, IIRC. At least using the definition that gets you big numbers of mass shootings.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
> Most mass shootings in the US are gang related using illegally-owned pistols I used to think this, but then I did some research, and it does not seem to be true: https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/gangs/ https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/gangs/ In Canada, the number is around 20%, per: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510007501 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=351000... Neither most mass shootings, nor most gun murders, are committed by gang members. Although it is a non-trivial fraction.
- bruprup 5y ago
  The article you linked says that it's a myth that most gun violence is committed by drug gangs. OP didn't argue that, he argued that most mass shootings are gang activity related. At no point does it mention mass shootings.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
    You're correct. It looks like indiscriminate mass shootings are a relative rarity among mass shootings. Thanks for pointing that out. I think for those who would ban guns, they're probably more concerned with the overall rate of gun homicide, as opposed to specifically about mass shootings. But it's a valid distinction for some purpose I'm sure.
    - bruprup 5y ago
      "I think for those who would ban guns, they're probably more concerned with the overall rate of gun homicide, as opposed to specifically about mass shootings. " That's what most would claim, but the issue is mostly emotion driven and mass shootings are extremely emotional. Overall gun homicide is actually not that high, in the sense that most of it is ancillary to other crimes (burglar getting shot, drug dealers playing footsie, etc). The chances of being killed in the US by a gun are quite low. Just this weekend an Italian was knifed in NYC. I wouldn't blame guns, there were none, or knives. I'd blame the perp and society (i.e. Columbia University) for telling naive foreigners that a city like NYC is safe at night.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago

> Most mass shootings in the US are gang related using illegally-owned pistols I used to think this, but then I did some research, and it does not seem to be true: https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/gangs/ https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/gangs/ In Canada, the number is around 20%, per: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510007501 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=351000... Neither most mass shootings, nor most gun murders, are committed by gang members. Although it is a non-trivial fraction.

bruprup 5y ago
The article you linked says that it's a myth that most gun violence is committed by drug gangs. OP didn't argue that, he argued that most mass shootings are gang activity related. At no point does it mention mass shootings.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
  You're correct. It looks like indiscriminate mass shootings are a relative rarity among mass shootings. Thanks for pointing that out. I think for those who would ban guns, they're probably more concerned with the overall rate of gun homicide, as opposed to specifically about mass shootings. But it's a valid distinction for some purpose I'm sure.
  - bruprup 5y ago
    "I think for those who would ban guns, they're probably more concerned with the overall rate of gun homicide, as opposed to specifically about mass shootings. " That's what most would claim, but the issue is mostly emotion driven and mass shootings are extremely emotional. Overall gun homicide is actually not that high, in the sense that most of it is ancillary to other crimes (burglar getting shot, drug dealers playing footsie, etc). The chances of being killed in the US by a gun are quite low. Just this weekend an Italian was knifed in NYC. I wouldn't blame guns, there were none, or knives. I'd blame the perp and society (i.e. Columbia University) for telling naive foreigners that a city like NYC is safe at night.