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Yeah, this is the root problem. If you want to break from mandatory upgrades (this includes "cloud" stuff, where you have even less control over software), you
by _jal 5y ago
Yeah, this is the root problem. If you want to break from mandatory upgrades (this includes "cloud" stuff, where you have even less control over software), you need vendors that aren't forced to invent reasons to build them by their operational structure.
This is a "Master's tools will never dismantle the Master's house" situation.
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- wayoutthere 5y agoThat phrase has a very specific meaning rooted in racism; I would not advise using it to describe any other situation that you don’t want to bring that context into. If only to avoid misunderstandings.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoI think that would be rooted in anti-racism, and anyway the next sentence after it "They may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change." I think establishes the universality of the idea, the same idea expressed in phrases such as if voting could truly change the system it would be outlawed. that idea being that systemic change cannot be achieved within the system that is to be changed. on edit: I am not necessarily a believer in the idea, as I think the 'if voting' expression of the idea can be shown to be wrong by various historical examples.
- wayoutthere 5y agoAudre Lorde chose her words carefully. Her use of “master” holds clear connotations that black people are still not free and the struggle continues. You can’t tear down the master’s house when you yourself are one of his tools. It’s powerful because it’s a personal challenge in the context of white supremacy. And whenever you use the phrase, some decent percentage of your audience will be put off by it and wonder why you’re bringing race into a conversation that’s not about race. If that’s not something you want, you shouldn’t use the phrase when not talking about issues of race.
- _jal 5y agoNo, I don't fence off metaphors for exclusivity. Good ones get reused. And claiming Lorde was only talking about race is simply incorrect.
- wayoutthere 5y agoOf course she wasn’t; she’s a poet so everything she says has multiple meanings, but context matters. The issue of race and personal marginalization is inextricable from the quote. She would have used a different word than “Master” otherwise. Context crushing it this way diminishes the effectiveness of any argument you may be using it in support of. You can choose to use whatever metaphors you want, but other people will add their own context. It’s the same reason you can’t say things like “final solution” — the phrase has societal context and its use is distracting at best when used in another context.
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