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Complaining about tools of fairly disingenuous when he didn't make the effort to learn svn. Also who takes work based on the version control system? Language

by parfe 15y ago

Complaining about tools of fairly disingenuous when he didn't make the effort to learn svn. Also who takes work based on the version control system? Language I could understand. edit: replaced "south" with "work" stupid phone.

dbattaglia 15y ago
Right, it's definitely surprising that he could decide to outright not take a job that doesn't use Git. Hell, my last job used Source Safe, it was a please to be able to use freaking SVN on side projects in comparison at that point!
- dazzawazza 15y ago
  I wouldn't refuse any interesting work based on source control.... even language. You're hired to do work for a company, if it's interesting do it. How they manage their code is their business. The OP needs to grow up.
  - estel 15y ago
    It pretty incredible that in both of OP's experiences with SVN, he's persuaded the client to move across to git! That seems a pretty unusual move for a client to take on the behest of a contractor.
  - mansr 15y ago
    I will refuse to work anywhere Clearcase is used for two reasons: 1) the horrors of using it are unspeakable, and 2) it is a good indicator that the company will not be a fun place to work for other reasons.
    - Roboprog 15y ago
      As long as we're playing the one-downsmanship game, I'd rather use Clearcase than Serena. At least if there was a big enough set of servers to run the VOB and view server functions for Clearcase so that it responded. The funky virtual file system in Clearcase does take getting used to, though. That said (ramble here...), I've Used RCS, Clearcase, VSS, CVS, MKS, SVN, Git and Serena. I like Git best, but SVN just isn't all that bad. It works plenty well enough. Never had reason to use Mercurial yet...
      - burgerbrain 15y ago
        I've actually seen SCCS used. Thankfully I myself did not have to, but needless to say I was rather stunned ;)
        aidenn0 15y ago
        I'm not convinced that SCCS is worse than CVS
        burgerbrain 15y ago
        Perhaps not, but it sure is ancient.
        Roboprog 15y ago
        Impressive :-) I've only read of the "original" SCCS, but never seen it in the wild. Did it actually work well for its practitioners? (e.g. - RCS, for all its weaknesses, works well enough for a small project and small local, trusted, group)
    - exDM69 15y ago
      Yep, the use of deprecated/inferior tools is a telltale sign that a company does decisions (or is unable to make decisions) because of legacy/politics/ignorance/other bad reason. My alarm bells ring every time I hear a company using CVS or Perforce or something even worse. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up, though. I have to use Perforce and Google Repo at work and it not only sucks, but is making me lose valuable coding time daily when I have to use an inferior tool to what's available out there.

by parfe 15y ago

dbattaglia 15y ago

Right, it's definitely surprising that he could decide to outright not take a job that doesn't use Git. Hell, my last job used Source Safe, it was a please to be able to use freaking SVN on side projects in comparison at that point!

dazzawazza 15y ago
I wouldn't refuse any interesting work based on source control.... even language. You're hired to do work for a company, if it's interesting do it. How they manage their code is their business. The OP needs to grow up.
- estel 15y ago
  It pretty incredible that in both of OP's experiences with SVN, he's persuaded the client to move across to git! That seems a pretty unusual move for a client to take on the behest of a contractor.
- mansr 15y ago
  I will refuse to work anywhere Clearcase is used for two reasons: 1) the horrors of using it are unspeakable, and 2) it is a good indicator that the company will not be a fun place to work for other reasons.
  - Roboprog 15y ago
    As long as we're playing the one-downsmanship game, I'd rather use Clearcase than Serena. At least if there was a big enough set of servers to run the VOB and view server functions for Clearcase so that it responded. The funky virtual file system in Clearcase does take getting used to, though. That said (ramble here...), I've Used RCS, Clearcase, VSS, CVS, MKS, SVN, Git and Serena. I like Git best, but SVN just isn't all that bad. It works plenty well enough. Never had reason to use Mercurial yet...
    - burgerbrain 15y ago
      I've actually seen SCCS used. Thankfully I myself did not have to, but needless to say I was rather stunned ;)
      - aidenn0 15y ago
        I'm not convinced that SCCS is worse than CVS
        burgerbrain 15y ago
        Perhaps not, but it sure is ancient.
      - Roboprog 15y ago
        Impressive :-) I've only read of the "original" SCCS, but never seen it in the wild. Did it actually work well for its practitioners? (e.g. - RCS, for all its weaknesses, works well enough for a small project and small local, trusted, group)
  - exDM69 15y ago
    Yep, the use of deprecated/inferior tools is a telltale sign that a company does decisions (or is unable to make decisions) because of legacy/politics/ignorance/other bad reason. My alarm bells ring every time I hear a company using CVS or Perforce or something even worse. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up, though. I have to use Perforce and Google Repo at work and it not only sucks, but is making me lose valuable coding time daily when I have to use an inferior tool to what's available out there.