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Something to keep in mind is the rate of people near death from other serious diseases who will not be willing, or might not be given the vaccine, because of th
by dukeofdoom 5y ago
Something to keep in mind is the rate of people near death from other serious diseases who will not be willing, or might not be given the vaccine, because of their already compromised immune system and weakened state.
If you have terminal cancer, with a few weeks to live are you even going to bother to take the vaccine? If you end up in the hospital in your last few weeks before death, good chance you will get covid there too. This is why I'm skeptical. Even if you show twice the rate of vaccinated dying. We are talking about such small numbers 30 vs 60 / 100,000 that its not at all clear its just not selection bias.
The requirement to have two doses to be counted as vaccinated could also be hiding a spike in deaths after the first vaccine. Its possible to have a graph that goes up, than goes down. Meaning the first vaccine shot kills of the very weak. Some people with compromised immune systems are not able to mount a proper immune response to any vaccine.
The very sick people admitted to the hospital that are immediately vaccinated on admission, than then live on survive the first dose of the vaccine, will be a subgroup of those healthier ones anyway.
Most of the dying from Covid are sick 80 year olds with comorbidities. You could probably ask these people to tie their shoe laces on hospital admission, and show far better statistical outcomes. Then go on to claiming teaching people to tie shoes laces saves lives. When in fact you're just doing a fitness test.