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As far as I am aware this approach is basically universal. It is definitely not universal practice to offer candidates, as Stripe did, "contingent" job offers

• matthewmacleod 5y ago
  I have literally no insight into the actual text used by Stripe for offers, so I can't say if they misrepresent their nature or not. The point was just a general one – that in most cases, I would expect an offer to be contingent on references and for those references not to be contacted until I'd accepted the offer. The expectations around this could, of course, vary from region to region.
  • vanusa 5y ago
    I have literally no insight into the actual text used by Stripe for offers, so I can't say if they misrepresent their nature or not. I think we can safely assume the candidates interviewed for the article were reasonably intelligent, and would not have missed language in the offer letter indicating that it was "contingent" and subject to due diligence still in progress.
  • whimsicalism 5y ago
    > in most cases, I would expect an offer to be contingent on references You work in tech in the Bay Area and this is your expectation? It's certainly not mine - I don't expect them to call anyone at my current employer and would be annoyed if they did.
    • matthewmacleod 5y ago
      You work in tech in the Bay Area I absolutely do not – I work in tech in the UK. That's why I added the proviso that expectations might vary regionally. However, if I were to explicitly provide a contact at my current employer as a reference (which seems to be broadly standard practice in this country) then I'd expect them to be contacted.