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We need to educate people on how to secure the data on their phones so that even the manufacturer cannot reach it. And if that is not possible for a particular

We need to educate people on how to secure the data on their phones so that even the manufacturer cannot reach it. And if that is not possible for a particular device, that should be clearly understood so people can make an informed choice about what smartphone they use. Can't just tell people 'do not put nudes on your phone' because while it's good advice, it misses the point. And, of course, whoever does something like this should be strung up by their toenails in the public square.

commandlinefan 5y ago
> how to secure the data on their phones so that even the manufacturer cannot reach it If that were possible, the FBI would shut it down.
- djbusby 5y ago
  Signal?
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Haven't they fought Apple on that in the past? AFAIK they still have to rely on exploits to get past the pin code. If that's not true I'd like to know.
- jfrunyon 5y ago
  [citation needed]
Bud 5y ago
No. We don't need to "educate" people on how to magically dodge evil behavior. We need to punish the evil behavior. Like you said in your last sentence.
- JohnFen 5y ago
  We need both.
- jfrunyon 5y ago
  Evil has always existed and will always exist. There is nothing we can do to get rid of all evil. We do punish the evil behavior. And yet this still allegedly occurred. So perhaps the solution is making sure the evil behavior isn't possible in the first place? Just maybe?
- nkrisc 5y ago
  Let’s educate people on how to protect themselves from evil while we’re still trying to vanquish it.
interfixus 5y ago
For which definition of "we" and "people"?
izacus 5y ago
The bizarre thing is that this is already HEAVILY done - both Android and iOS will give you multiple warnings if you fail to setup a screen lock (+ biometrics). Once those locks are in place, it's not really possible to access the data on device without knowing the PIN/Password, even when repairing.

commandlinefan 5y ago

> how to secure the data on their phones so that even the manufacturer cannot reach it If that were possible, the FBI would shut it down.

djbusby 5y ago
Signal?
rootusrootus 5y ago
Haven't they fought Apple on that in the past? AFAIK they still have to rely on exploits to get past the pin code. If that's not true I'd like to know.
jfrunyon 5y ago
[citation needed]

Bud 5y ago

No. We don't need to "educate" people on how to magically dodge evil behavior. We need to punish the evil behavior. Like you said in your last sentence.

JohnFen 5y ago
We need both.
jfrunyon 5y ago
Evil has always existed and will always exist. There is nothing we can do to get rid of all evil. We do punish the evil behavior. And yet this still allegedly occurred. So perhaps the solution is making sure the evil behavior isn't possible in the first place? Just maybe?
nkrisc 5y ago
Let’s educate people on how to protect themselves from evil while we’re still trying to vanquish it.

interfixus 5y ago

For which definition of "we" and "people"?

izacus 5y ago

The bizarre thing is that this is already HEAVILY done - both Android and iOS will give you multiple warnings if you fail to setup a screen lock (+ biometrics). Once those locks are in place, it's not really possible to access the data on device without knowing the PIN/Password, even when repairing.