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Not only SO threads, I particularly hate the ones that mirror GitHub Issues. They don't even link back to the original thread, for Christ's sake!

yumraj 5y ago
And as I had mentioned in another thread, DDG so far ignores them, at least in my 1 case, but Google has those GitHub issues mirror sites as the first results. So they are clearly gaming Google SEO.
- znpy 5y ago
  I'd blame gooogle more than the website, since google search results are generally getting worse and less relevant
  - monkeybutton 5y ago
    Totally. This is a exactly what I was thinking about yesterday in the thread where someone was asking if Google results were getting worse. There's no reason the official docs for Python should be lower in the results than a shitty docs clone / spam site when searching for a common package/function in the standard library.
    - kikokikokiko 5y ago
      "There's no reason the official docs for Python should be lower in the results than a shitty docs clone" If Google still used/respected the original page rank algo, the official docs would never be ranked lower than a spammy clone site. I just wish they reverted back to the "power of the crowd" algo, let each node vote with their links and reputation. Nowadays I almost stopped using Google completely. I first noticed it with torrent/streaming censorship ~5 years ago, then the political/ideological censorship started to feel unbearable. I just want my search engine to show me the most relevant results BASED ON THE QUERY I SUBMITTED. No moral judgement crap. My search stack nowadays is a mix o Bing, ddg, Yandex and if everything else failed, Google. It's a sad reality.
- coryrc 5y ago
  I'm getting lots of these in DDG too. Right now I'm doing searches about home renovation and I see lots of pages which are just a rip off of an online forum page (which I find elsewhere in my results, usually). Which, unlike SO, is not licensed for people to copy.
- deadbunny 5y ago
  Sample of 1 as well but I do see them on DDG, not nearly as much as Google though.
- ziml77 5y ago
  My experience has been finding more garbage on DDG, not less. I ended up getting too tired of those results being above the good ones that I switched back to Google.
  - yumraj 5y ago
    Try this, the exact query I was referring to. I leave it to the reader to decide which is better.. The top 2 Google results are scrapped clones (or whatever they should be called) of the 1st result from DDG (Github issues #162 for docker-calibre-web) The closest Google comes in top 4 links is a link to the entire Github issues for docker-calibre-web DDG: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=FakeUserAgentError+calibre-web&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=FakeUserAgentError+calibre-... Google: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FakeUserAgentError%20calibre%2Dweb https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FakeUserAgentError%20c... DDG Results: 1) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 2) https://www.nas-forum.com/forum/topic/67746-tuto-calibre-web-via-docker/page/4/ https://www.nas-forum.com/forum/topic/67746-tuto-calibre-web... 3) https://pypi.org/project/fake-useragent/ https://pypi.org/project/fake-useragent/ 4) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/ https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/ Google Results: 1) https://githubmemory.com/repo/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 https://githubmemory.com/repo/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web... 2) https://issueexplorer.com/issue/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/162 https://issueexplorer.com/issue/linuxserver/docker-calibre-w... 3) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues 4) https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web/issues/1527 https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web/issues/1527
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      Interestingly, as of 02 December 2021 ~0300 US/Eastern, this thread is the third entry in your Google search. It doesn't appear at all on the first page of the DDG results.
      - yumraj 5y ago
        Wow, I checked and that is the funniest thing ever and totally unexpected!! FWIW, I see it as 4th item in Google search results, but that is not important. It's just weird that that will show up at all. Again, I'll say, that's a win for DDG results, at least IMveryHO.
johnchristopher 5y ago
Just found out about github clones today. It threw me off. At least for SO you can get back to SO to search but github issues search engine is something else.

yumraj 5y ago

And as I had mentioned in another thread, DDG so far ignores them, at least in my 1 case, but Google has those GitHub issues mirror sites as the first results. So they are clearly gaming Google SEO.

znpy 5y ago
I'd blame gooogle more than the website, since google search results are generally getting worse and less relevant
- monkeybutton 5y ago
  Totally. This is a exactly what I was thinking about yesterday in the thread where someone was asking if Google results were getting worse. There's no reason the official docs for Python should be lower in the results than a shitty docs clone / spam site when searching for a common package/function in the standard library.
  - kikokikokiko 5y ago
    "There's no reason the official docs for Python should be lower in the results than a shitty docs clone" If Google still used/respected the original page rank algo, the official docs would never be ranked lower than a spammy clone site. I just wish they reverted back to the "power of the crowd" algo, let each node vote with their links and reputation. Nowadays I almost stopped using Google completely. I first noticed it with torrent/streaming censorship ~5 years ago, then the political/ideological censorship started to feel unbearable. I just want my search engine to show me the most relevant results BASED ON THE QUERY I SUBMITTED. No moral judgement crap. My search stack nowadays is a mix o Bing, ddg, Yandex and if everything else failed, Google. It's a sad reality.
coryrc 5y ago
I'm getting lots of these in DDG too. Right now I'm doing searches about home renovation and I see lots of pages which are just a rip off of an online forum page (which I find elsewhere in my results, usually). Which, unlike SO, is not licensed for people to copy.
deadbunny 5y ago
Sample of 1 as well but I do see them on DDG, not nearly as much as Google though.
ziml77 5y ago
My experience has been finding more garbage on DDG, not less. I ended up getting too tired of those results being above the good ones that I switched back to Google.
- yumraj 5y ago
  Try this, the exact query I was referring to. I leave it to the reader to decide which is better.. The top 2 Google results are scrapped clones (or whatever they should be called) of the 1st result from DDG (Github issues #162 for docker-calibre-web) The closest Google comes in top 4 links is a link to the entire Github issues for docker-calibre-web DDG: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=FakeUserAgentError+calibre-web&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=FakeUserAgentError+calibre-... Google: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FakeUserAgentError%20calibre%2Dweb https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FakeUserAgentError%20c... DDG Results: 1) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 2) https://www.nas-forum.com/forum/topic/67746-tuto-calibre-web-via-docker/page/4/ https://www.nas-forum.com/forum/topic/67746-tuto-calibre-web... 3) https://pypi.org/project/fake-useragent/ https://pypi.org/project/fake-useragent/ 4) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/ https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/ Google Results: 1) https://githubmemory.com/repo/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues/162 https://githubmemory.com/repo/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web... 2) https://issueexplorer.com/issue/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/162 https://issueexplorer.com/issue/linuxserver/docker-calibre-w... 3) https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-calibre-web/issues 4) https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web/issues/1527 https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web/issues/1527
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    Interestingly, as of 02 December 2021 ~0300 US/Eastern, this thread is the third entry in your Google search. It doesn't appear at all on the first page of the DDG results.
    - yumraj 5y ago
      Wow, I checked and that is the funniest thing ever and totally unexpected!! FWIW, I see it as 4th item in Google search results, but that is not important. It's just weird that that will show up at all. Again, I'll say, that's a win for DDG results, at least IMveryHO.

johnchristopher 5y ago

Just found out about github clones today. It threw me off. At least for SO you can get back to SO to search but github issues search engine is something else.