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this is one of the many reason the left has left me. things like /r/covidatemyface and /r/HermanCainAward/ - full of so-called progressives and their endless p

this is one of the many reason the left has left me. things like /r/covidatemyface and /r/HermanCainAward/ - full of so-called progressives and their endless pseudo-empathy, not seeing this as opportunity to increase understanding about this situation and more as an tribalistic moment to "score points" and have a good laugh at the ignorance and death of others and the pain their families have to endure in the wake of their loss.

meepmorp 5y ago
Consider your virtue signaled, my brother!
makotech222 5y ago
these are liberals, not leftists
toomuchtodo 5y ago
You can be progressive and not have any compassion left for ignorance. Don’t confuse policy positions with being a doormat for those who equate beliefs and opinions with facts (which is troubling frequent in a post truth world). My apologies to Meta, “data wins arguments.” All of this loss (r/HCA) was mostly avoidable (based on all available information) with a free vaccine, and the subreddit raised over $56k [1] for vaccine donations to those who were not so lucky to have it freely available. (Posted while waiting for my child’s COVID vaccination to be administered) [1] https://gogiveone.org/coalition/ https://gogiveone.org/coalition/
- RankingMember 5y ago
  And, to be fair, it's flagrant "thumbing their nose at you as they're being rolled into intensive care", top-level ignorance. The HCA subreddit made me uneasy, but the rules and goal do seem to be at least semi-compassionate in a "save the flock being led off the hill by showing them the dead shepherd" kind of way.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    Right. If you give society both middle fingers while headed off a cliff at speed as the crowd shouts to you to stop, not much sympathy when you’ve run out of runway. We use your experience to encourage better outcomes for those still with us who can make better choices.
    - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
      not having sympathy for people is a far cry from collectively laughing at their death and trolling their family members. there's a difference between shrugging off people you find to be moronic or destructive and being an aggressor and mean spirited. and the common defense of things like https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ is to equate the two, and it's intentionally dishonest
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      - kergonath 5y ago
        The posts discussed are public. Why couldn’t we discuss public statements, including criticising them? Each story is a lesson, and the subreddit also has good stories of people who got vaccinated or got their loved ones vaccinated after having seen some of these horror stories. They also have a strong redaction policy, and do not encourage stalking, trolling, or harassment. The Guardian is also running some stories about how some peoples were led to distrust vaccines and paid it with their lives. This is important. We need to expose mistakes if we want to avoid repeating them.
    - peteradio 5y ago
      99.9% of people < 40 years who choose not to get the vaccine will survive and apparently be right (by the apparent metric of not dying set forth by HCA), so all this pissing on dead people accomplishes what to those people who will ultimately see themselves as correctly forgoing the vaccine? Who exactly should be ostracized here, me or the fuckhead shitting on dead people? Put another way, do the Razzies prevent shitty movies from being made? No! Nic Cage will always be around to make shitty movies and god love him for it, I know I do.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Progressive doesn't mean compassion. It did once for a period but society has progressed into something else. Progressive now means welding power over those views you wish to change for the greater good. Progressive became regressive.
mindslight 5y ago
It makes sense to reject the groupthink of the Parties and see the merit in both left and right flavored analyses of issues. But your focusing on "the left" is indicative that your comment isn't straightforward. The few long tail extremists associated with either Party aren't an indictment of the core, rather they're a straw man for the other Party to bash to shore up their own ranks.

meepmorp 5y ago

Consider your virtue signaled, my brother!

makotech222 5y ago

these are liberals, not leftists

toomuchtodo 5y ago

You can be progressive and not have any compassion left for ignorance. Don’t confuse policy positions with being a doormat for those who equate beliefs and opinions with facts (which is troubling frequent in a post truth world). My apologies to Meta, “data wins arguments.” All of this loss (r/HCA) was mostly avoidable (based on all available information) with a free vaccine, and the subreddit raised over $56k [1] for vaccine donations to those who were not so lucky to have it freely available. (Posted while waiting for my child’s COVID vaccination to be administered) [1] https://gogiveone.org/coalition/ https://gogiveone.org/coalition/

RankingMember 5y ago
And, to be fair, it's flagrant "thumbing their nose at you as they're being rolled into intensive care", top-level ignorance. The HCA subreddit made me uneasy, but the rules and goal do seem to be at least semi-compassionate in a "save the flock being led off the hill by showing them the dead shepherd" kind of way.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  Right. If you give society both middle fingers while headed off a cliff at speed as the crowd shouts to you to stop, not much sympathy when you’ve run out of runway. We use your experience to encourage better outcomes for those still with us who can make better choices.
  - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
    not having sympathy for people is a far cry from collectively laughing at their death and trolling their family members. there's a difference between shrugging off people you find to be moronic or destructive and being an aggressor and mean spirited. and the common defense of things like https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ is to equate the two, and it's intentionally dishonest
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - kergonath 5y ago
      The posts discussed are public. Why couldn’t we discuss public statements, including criticising them? Each story is a lesson, and the subreddit also has good stories of people who got vaccinated or got their loved ones vaccinated after having seen some of these horror stories. They also have a strong redaction policy, and do not encourage stalking, trolling, or harassment. The Guardian is also running some stories about how some peoples were led to distrust vaccines and paid it with their lives. This is important. We need to expose mistakes if we want to avoid repeating them.
  - peteradio 5y ago
    99.9% of people < 40 years who choose not to get the vaccine will survive and apparently be right (by the apparent metric of not dying set forth by HCA), so all this pissing on dead people accomplishes what to those people who will ultimately see themselves as correctly forgoing the vaccine? Who exactly should be ostracized here, me or the fuckhead shitting on dead people? Put another way, do the Razzies prevent shitty movies from being made? No! Nic Cage will always be around to make shitty movies and god love him for it, I know I do.
ipaddr 5y ago
Progressive doesn't mean compassion. It did once for a period but society has progressed into something else. Progressive now means welding power over those views you wish to change for the greater good. Progressive became regressive.

mindslight 5y ago

It makes sense to reject the groupthink of the Parties and see the merit in both left and right flavored analyses of issues. But your focusing on "the left" is indicative that your comment isn't straightforward. The few long tail extremists associated with either Party aren't an indictment of the core, rather they're a straw man for the other Party to bash to shore up their own ranks.