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Is the name designed to be intentionally confusing?

by seirl 5y ago

pauldavis 5y ago
Looks like they are starting with the popular BTRFS, and then making the pun of this being "better," and also implying the Be tree data structure they use. I bet it's intended to be pronounced "Better Eff Ess."
- nerdponx 5y ago
  But that's already how a lot of people pronounce Btrfs...
  - fnord123 5y ago
    I thought everyone said butterface.
    - yakubin 5y ago
      I'm definitely calling it that starting today.
- BlackLotus89 5y ago
  > Amanda: To clear this up, once and for all: is it pronounced BetterFS or ButterFS? > Chris: <Grin> Definitely both. https://web.archive.org/web/20120627065427/http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2009/06/conversation-chris-mason-btrfs-next-generation-file-system-linux https://web.archive.org/web/20120627065427/http://www.linuxf...
- emptysongglass 5y ago
  I personally find it really douchey. BTRFS definitely had this first and using such a name in full knowledge of BTRFS is just in poor taste.
Lhiw 5y ago
Only if you don't know how to pronounce btrfs.
myself248 5y ago
Letting programmers name their projects was always a mistake.
- toolslive 5y ago
  letting C-level name projects is always a mistake too. "project Crossbow!" (Microsoft, Sun, EU, ...)
  - asplake 5y ago
    After a former colleague of mine, Stuart’s rule of system naming: The whizzier the name, the crappier the system. Inside corporates the correlation is uncanny.
    - toolslive 5y ago
      for operating systems, it's the opposite: the crappier the name, the better the OS. "Plan 9", "Fiasco", ...
      - asplake 5y ago
        That’s the thing with correlations, they work both ways :-)
- klyrs 5y ago
  UUID4 or go home?
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  WSL would like a word with you.
vletal 5y ago
Is it that bad? There is plenty of technical shortcuts which differ in a single letter - that should not be an issue. Plus one is pronounced /ˈbiːtriː/ and the other likely /ˈbɛtə/ (or /ˈbɛtəɹ/ in the US :)).
- zauguin 5y ago
  I think that this is particularly bad since there are many different pronunciations for btrfs. E.g. Wikipedia says > Btrfs (pronounced as "better F S", "butter F S", "b-tree F S", or simply by spelling it out) and I heard all of them in practice (except for spelling it out). While you can hear the difference for "b-tree F S", the other ones are much harder to distinguish.
  - vletal 5y ago
    Oh, thx for pointing that out. I was not aware of the other possible pronunciations.
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    Swedish person thinking I'll just pronounce it "bee tee arr FS". I mean that's what it says and it isn't a tounge warper so... Same with SQL, never got the sequel / whatever pronunciation, I just say the darn letters.
- willis936 5y ago
  It's the single letter in a relatively complex acronym where the single letter doesn't distinguish the underlying name.
mcdonje 5y ago
They should call it Bepsilon FS, or Bepsi for short.
- junon 5y ago
  Oh no, we're kindling the Bepis vs Conk debate now.
  - cerved 5y ago
    OMAN BEPIS
- dkdbejwi383 5y ago
  Bepsi Max for when you need large volume support

Is the name designed to be intentionally confusing?

by seirl 5y ago

Is the name designed to be intentionally confusing?

Looks like they are starting with the popular BTRFS, and then making the pun of this being "better," and also implying the Be tree data structure they use. I bet it's intended to be pronounced "Better Eff Ess."

nerdponx 5y ago
But that's already how a lot of people pronounce Btrfs...
- fnord123 5y ago
  I thought everyone said butterface.
  - yakubin 5y ago
    I'm definitely calling it that starting today.
BlackLotus89 5y ago
> Amanda: To clear this up, once and for all: is it pronounced BetterFS or ButterFS? > Chris: <Grin> Definitely both. https://web.archive.org/web/20120627065427/http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2009/06/conversation-chris-mason-btrfs-next-generation-file-system-linux https://web.archive.org/web/20120627065427/http://www.linuxf...
emptysongglass 5y ago
I personally find it really douchey. BTRFS definitely had this first and using such a name in full knowledge of BTRFS is just in poor taste.

Lhiw 5y ago

Only if you don't know how to pronounce btrfs.

myself248 5y ago

Letting programmers name their projects was always a mistake.

toolslive 5y ago
letting C-level name projects is always a mistake too. "project Crossbow!" (Microsoft, Sun, EU, ...)
- asplake 5y ago
  After a former colleague of mine, Stuart’s rule of system naming: The whizzier the name, the crappier the system. Inside corporates the correlation is uncanny.
  - toolslive 5y ago
    for operating systems, it's the opposite: the crappier the name, the better the OS. "Plan 9", "Fiasco", ...
    - asplake 5y ago
      That’s the thing with correlations, they work both ways :-)
klyrs 5y ago
UUID4 or go home?
mixmastamyk 5y ago
WSL would like a word with you.

vletal 5y ago

Is it that bad? There is plenty of technical shortcuts which differ in a single letter - that should not be an issue. Plus one is pronounced /ˈbiːtriː/ and the other likely /ˈbɛtə/ (or /ˈbɛtəɹ/ in the US :)).

zauguin 5y ago
I think that this is particularly bad since there are many different pronunciations for btrfs. E.g. Wikipedia says > Btrfs (pronounced as "better F S", "butter F S", "b-tree F S", or simply by spelling it out) and I heard all of them in practice (except for spelling it out). While you can hear the difference for "b-tree F S", the other ones are much harder to distinguish.
- vletal 5y ago
  Oh, thx for pointing that out. I was not aware of the other possible pronunciations.
- lillecarl 5y ago
  Swedish person thinking I'll just pronounce it "bee tee arr FS". I mean that's what it says and it isn't a tounge warper so... Same with SQL, never got the sequel / whatever pronunciation, I just say the darn letters.
willis936 5y ago
It's the single letter in a relatively complex acronym where the single letter doesn't distinguish the underlying name.

mcdonje 5y ago

They should call it Bepsilon FS, or Bepsi for short.

junon 5y ago
Oh no, we're kindling the Bepis vs Conk debate now.
- cerved 5y ago
  OMAN BEPIS
dkdbejwi383 5y ago
Bepsi Max for when you need large volume support