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Certifications for me have always been a negative signal for people that we might hire for startups. I have no idea how that affects folks that want to work for

Certifications for me have always been a negative signal for people that we might hire for startups. I have no idea how that affects folks that want to work for well established companies. It seems like below CIO it might be required for most enterprise IT organizations.

skinkestek 5y ago
I work as a consultant. I'm certified on some GCP stuff. Work pays us to study, take the exam and even pays a bonus if we pass. Am I smarter as a result of that exam? No. But I'm easier to sell. Some clients ask directly for certifications, others ask leading questions to our sales people I think. Would i put my certifications on every variation of my CV for any job I apply for? Probably no. While I'm at it: Someone else here writes about instantly rejecting people because of shibbolets like certifications. I'm fairly smart, well liked by colleagues and very well liked by customers. However I have been dumped in screening I don't know how many times, dumped during interviews etc for something nobody told me but now seems to be gone. Well everyone who didn't take me seriously: Thanks! I'm now a consultant working somewhere else with someone who pays better. And I am very motivated to give your competitors an edge ;-)
ocdtrekkie 5y ago
None of my certifications I got were required, I was hired into the enterprise IT field with no formal training. But I will say the process of studying for and taking certifications was wildly beneficial to my job. In my case, I took community college courses aligned to these programs (mostly to keep me on track) and often was able to apply things I was getting from class directly to work. I would say the certifications fill in a lot of gaps, and do give you a good baseline. It's definitely going to be a "you get out what you put in" thing though. Folks trying to rote-memorize dumps aren't going to get anything out of it. Personally, I used practice tests to evaluate and tell me where I needed to go back and study more, and then jumped back into the material in those places.

skinkestek 5y ago

I work as a consultant. I'm certified on some GCP stuff. Work pays us to study, take the exam and even pays a bonus if we pass. Am I smarter as a result of that exam? No. But I'm easier to sell. Some clients ask directly for certifications, others ask leading questions to our sales people I think. Would i put my certifications on every variation of my CV for any job I apply for? Probably no. While I'm at it: Someone else here writes about instantly rejecting people because of shibbolets like certifications. I'm fairly smart, well liked by colleagues and very well liked by customers. However I have been dumped in screening I don't know how many times, dumped during interviews etc for something nobody told me but now seems to be gone. Well everyone who didn't take me seriously: Thanks! I'm now a consultant working somewhere else with someone who pays better. And I am very motivated to give your competitors an edge ;-)

ocdtrekkie 5y ago

None of my certifications I got were required, I was hired into the enterprise IT field with no formal training. But I will say the process of studying for and taking certifications was wildly beneficial to my job. In my case, I took community college courses aligned to these programs (mostly to keep me on track) and often was able to apply things I was getting from class directly to work. I would say the certifications fill in a lot of gaps, and do give you a good baseline. It's definitely going to be a "you get out what you put in" thing though. Folks trying to rote-memorize dumps aren't going to get anything out of it. Personally, I used practice tests to evaluate and tell me where I needed to go back and study more, and then jumped back into the material in those places.