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It’s an extremely traditional story arc, isn’t it?

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IggleSniggle 5y ago
This is like being presented with eg West Side Story and responding “oh hey but that’s just the same old Romeo and Juliet story isn’t it?” It really doesn’t matter if you “spoil” most story arcs, because as it turns out, for most stories, it’s not the story arc that matters. On the contrary, if you follow the familiar, recognizable beats and cadences, it gives you a lot more room to experiment and build nuanced meaning, because a lot of the meaning comes pre-established. An apple is just an apple, until you’ve tried a Gala, and a Honey Crisp, and a Braeburn…they are very different, and you can’t really appreciate that until you've first had some kind of apple.
- slx26 5y ago
  We are in for the journey.
whateveracct 5y ago
I wouldn't say so. Anticlimax and ambiguity are two of its hallmarks.
kgarten 5y ago
Is it? I was surprised how complex the heros as well as the antagonists are. One can understand their motivation of all and it has a couple of unpredictable twists. Compare that to standard Disney movies .. You can guess from the beginning what will happen. Also watched Mononoke first. My favorites are Naussica and Totoro :) all movies form Miyazaki are amazing and watchable. If you wonder about his skill,check some of the ghibli movies he was not involved in.
- ripsawridge 5y ago
  So much agree. Naussica and Toroto capture the highest expressions of depth and delight. Though Spirited Away speaks to me more and more...there is a tenderness about the human condition in that film, which becomes a call to courage.
robertlagrant 5y ago
A story arc is just an extremely traditional storyline, isn't it?
nsonha 5y ago
in what way? It's one of the rare stories that have no true antagonist, everyone has a point and everyone grows by the end of the film
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Like all of Miyazaki’s films?
  - nsonha 5y ago
    I don't know, other films (Laputa, Nausicaa, Howl) have more traditional stories with good guys and bad guys
criddell 5y ago
Maybe, but so what? Kurt Vonnegut wrote about this when he was in graduate school. He noticed, for example, Cinderella and the New Testament have the same story arc. His advisors rejected the idea for his thesis, but it stuck with him and he wrote about it a few times.

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This is like being presented with eg West Side Story and responding “oh hey but that’s just the same old Romeo and Juliet story isn’t it?” It really doesn’t matter if you “spoil” most story arcs, because as it turns out, for most stories, it’s not the story arc that matters. On the contrary, if you follow the familiar, recognizable beats and cadences, it gives you a lot more room to experiment and build nuanced meaning, because a lot of the meaning comes pre-established. An apple is just an apple, until you’ve tried a Gala, and a Honey Crisp, and a Braeburn…they are very different, and you can’t really appreciate that until you've first had some kind of apple.

slx26 5y ago
We are in for the journey.

whateveracct 5y ago

I wouldn't say so. Anticlimax and ambiguity are two of its hallmarks.

kgarten 5y ago

Is it? I was surprised how complex the heros as well as the antagonists are. One can understand their motivation of all and it has a couple of unpredictable twists. Compare that to standard Disney movies .. You can guess from the beginning what will happen. Also watched Mononoke first. My favorites are Naussica and Totoro :) all movies form Miyazaki are amazing and watchable. If you wonder about his skill,check some of the ghibli movies he was not involved in.

ripsawridge 5y ago
So much agree. Naussica and Toroto capture the highest expressions of depth and delight. Though Spirited Away speaks to me more and more...there is a tenderness about the human condition in that film, which becomes a call to courage.

robertlagrant 5y ago

A story arc is just an extremely traditional storyline, isn't it?

nsonha 5y ago

in what way? It's one of the rare stories that have no true antagonist, everyone has a point and everyone grows by the end of the film

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Like all of Miyazaki’s films?
- nsonha 5y ago
  I don't know, other films (Laputa, Nausicaa, Howl) have more traditional stories with good guys and bad guys

criddell 5y ago

Maybe, but so what? Kurt Vonnegut wrote about this when he was in graduate school. He noticed, for example, Cinderella and the New Testament have the same story arc. His advisors rejected the idea for his thesis, but it stuck with him and he wrote about it a few times.