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"Bill Gates lost his wife over his long-standing, deep involvement with Epstein. That is very, very carefully never, ever mentioned on TV." Except it's plaster

"Bill Gates lost his wife over his long-standing, deep involvement with Epstein. That is very, very carefully never, ever mentioned on TV." Except it's plastered all over the TV, all over print and digital media, and literally everyone in the world knows about it, or has access to a lot of information about it! In the meantime in China, a tennis player accused someone of something and was 'dissapeared', her accusations erased, and now she talks like a puppet prisoner of the state reading lines from the CCP PR team. These comparisons are not helping your case.

ncmncm 5y ago
Epstein and Gates are only ever mentioned together in connection with money-related events in the past decade, not the activities in the previous millennium that would legitimately have motivated his divorce. The fact is that Gates's public persona is barely affected. He still gets to pump his investment targets and his favorite authors. It is hard to think of any examples besides Epstein demonstrating any kind of vulnerability among the elite. Even Trump is still running loose despite involvement in the first actual violent insurrection in 15 decades. Epstein is the only US billionaire I have ever heard of so much as going to jail, never mind arraigned, tried, convicted, sentenced, or sent up. By contrast, top party apparats in China and oligarchs in Russia are disappeared every few years. Epstein is big news because it is a total fluke. My assertion is that US elites are overwhelmingly more secure than Chinese elites, so devote correspondingly less attention to scrubbing the public discourse. Still, the ones getting transfusions of blood taken from infants are not being discussed on GMA.
- jollybean 5y ago
  The specific involvement of Gates + Epstein is not known but more than likely, he was boinking prostitutes. It has definitely hurts his brand, that said, boinking prostitutes is not a high crime. There's no evidence to suggest that Gates was involved in really bad stuff. Prince Andrew's public indictment in more serious stuff repudiates the insinuation that the elite are not held to account. Maxwell is an Upper Class French Elite and her trial is visible now for the world to see. Trump's goings on are also well publicized. They are not apparently illegal, so he's fine. As far as his supporters, well, that's too bad but his actions are public, and it's their absolute choice to support him. FYI being blunt about 'Building A Wall' is not inherently, objectively immoral. Trump is not technically corrupt: the IRS audits him extensively every single year, he had an investigations into his Russian dealings with over 300 witnesses and they turned up nothing on him. Even Biden Jr's actions are constantly scrutinized. Bernie Maddoff and other Pozni Schemers are in jail (soon Holmes) , andmost Billionaires don't commit crimes. They have too much to lose. Could you imagine Xi being charged and imprisoned like Epstein? On trial like Maxwell? Massive Federal Investigation like Trump? Or private information about his apparently infidelity all over the internet? Xi's children in the press every few weeks where journalists pour over conflicts of interest? In China they dissapear Billionaires for not following party orders, not for being corrupt. Just as in Russia, all rich prisoners are effectively political prisoners.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    You keep trying to distract us from the subject. It won't work. There is no practical difference, in China, between corruption and failing to follow party orders. US elite are, as a rule, never so much as mentioned in the news, nor do they go to jail, never mind get disappeared. Thus, the US elite is overwhelmingly more secure than anyone in China, howsoever well placed. They have little to fear from TV chatter, but seem, by the evidence, entirely able to keep it tamped down to a minimum, except where they instead cultivate it.
    - duxup 5y ago
      >nor do they go to jail, Yes they do. >never so much as mentioned in the news Yes they are ... even in your own comments you mentioned some examples.
- jeffreyrogers 5y ago
  > the first actual violent insurrection in 15 decades. You're off by quite a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_Senate_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_Senate_bomb...

ncmncm 5y ago

Epstein and Gates are only ever mentioned together in connection with money-related events in the past decade, not the activities in the previous millennium that would legitimately have motivated his divorce. The fact is that Gates's public persona is barely affected. He still gets to pump his investment targets and his favorite authors. It is hard to think of any examples besides Epstein demonstrating any kind of vulnerability among the elite. Even Trump is still running loose despite involvement in the first actual violent insurrection in 15 decades. Epstein is the only US billionaire I have ever heard of so much as going to jail, never mind arraigned, tried, convicted, sentenced, or sent up. By contrast, top party apparats in China and oligarchs in Russia are disappeared every few years. Epstein is big news because it is a total fluke. My assertion is that US elites are overwhelmingly more secure than Chinese elites, so devote correspondingly less attention to scrubbing the public discourse. Still, the ones getting transfusions of blood taken from infants are not being discussed on GMA.

jollybean 5y ago
The specific involvement of Gates + Epstein is not known but more than likely, he was boinking prostitutes. It has definitely hurts his brand, that said, boinking prostitutes is not a high crime. There's no evidence to suggest that Gates was involved in really bad stuff. Prince Andrew's public indictment in more serious stuff repudiates the insinuation that the elite are not held to account. Maxwell is an Upper Class French Elite and her trial is visible now for the world to see. Trump's goings on are also well publicized. They are not apparently illegal, so he's fine. As far as his supporters, well, that's too bad but his actions are public, and it's their absolute choice to support him. FYI being blunt about 'Building A Wall' is not inherently, objectively immoral. Trump is not technically corrupt: the IRS audits him extensively every single year, he had an investigations into his Russian dealings with over 300 witnesses and they turned up nothing on him. Even Biden Jr's actions are constantly scrutinized. Bernie Maddoff and other Pozni Schemers are in jail (soon Holmes) , andmost Billionaires don't commit crimes. They have too much to lose. Could you imagine Xi being charged and imprisoned like Epstein? On trial like Maxwell? Massive Federal Investigation like Trump? Or private information about his apparently infidelity all over the internet? Xi's children in the press every few weeks where journalists pour over conflicts of interest? In China they dissapear Billionaires for not following party orders, not for being corrupt. Just as in Russia, all rich prisoners are effectively political prisoners.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  You keep trying to distract us from the subject. It won't work. There is no practical difference, in China, between corruption and failing to follow party orders. US elite are, as a rule, never so much as mentioned in the news, nor do they go to jail, never mind get disappeared. Thus, the US elite is overwhelmingly more secure than anyone in China, howsoever well placed. They have little to fear from TV chatter, but seem, by the evidence, entirely able to keep it tamped down to a minimum, except where they instead cultivate it.
  - duxup 5y ago
    >nor do they go to jail, Yes they do. >never so much as mentioned in the news Yes they are ... even in your own comments you mentioned some examples.
jeffreyrogers 5y ago
> the first actual violent insurrection in 15 decades. You're off by quite a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_Senate_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_Senate_bomb...